Last edited: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 3:48:06 AM

TG:

Quality points about the 4 on 4 issue. Read my comment above.

RE: rotating people in and out

That's a team/captain issue, I leave it to them. Also switching a cat in and out will create a bit of disruption. I don't recommend it.

Toot.

My vote on the 4 on 4 issue?

Fo fo is fo fo on fo

Fo on fo is the way to go ho

Fo course!

Last edited: Thursday, February 19, 2004 at 11:36:28 AM

Stay the course my friends.... 3 on 3 is the ticket, lest the 4 players show for each team.. Which is highly unlikely to be consistent considering the history of these tournaments and leagues. My recomendation would be for every captain to set up a rotation schedule that maps out the whole season for their team-mates. Individual players would be held responsible by the captain to find subs if they can't make scheduled date. This way everone know's when to show or not. If you're a total geek like me, you'll put the game schedule in you're iCal or whatever you have for your PC calendar and have it automatically send you e-mail reminder's of game dates a day in advance. That's my 2 cents anyway.

BTW - Gerbil and Snipe, your clones came out perfectly... Unfortunately I think I may have overcooked Baklava's... For some reason it tastes real bad. B)

-ACA

Hey, anyone want to set up a practice game on Saturday at 3pm PST with The Clonus Horror?

Ok so is 3 on 3 or 4 on 4? Downright confused right now.

And how do you know my clone tastes bad. What are u making these for? Eating? Or... Actually im not gonna ask that one.

Ge0rge, Mystery Man, Sherm and VashStampede...

The Horde

Now that's just creepy...

Meh.

@ Tally, what's the word on the 3 on 3 vs. 4 on 4 status?

@ Bak - No worries, it's all just part of the Clonus Horror. I mean I would never off you and replace you with a clone if that's what you're thinking...

Mwahhahahaahaaaa

-ACA

Right but that doesnt answer my question.

How do you know my clone tastes bad? Have you tasted my clone?

How did you taste it? Eating? Sexually?

Im gonna have to ask you to stop that

And what if one of my clones escapes and tries to warn the world

@ACA - I might take you up on this. I had plans for practice sessions with my team this Saturday anyway. Might as well make it real.

I'll let you know if this is doable for us. Let me know if you still want to do this though.

OM

@ OM - yea, I'm still down with Saturday practice. I have a confirmation from Gerbil, so I just need one more from my team to make it 3.

@ Bak - Ewww. As with any cloner, my plan is to clone everyone and do away with the originals. If you must know, here is the history:

In the old days, I created my army by growing them from tissue samples from my own buttock. After that was hewn to swiss, I directed my efforts toward other willing (or non-willing) buttocks. As it stands now, there are very few orginal TTers as most of them are just clones grown from my own tanks. Since you are a pastry, and meant to be eaten, I did sample your clone and found it to taste yucky. End of story. So now if you just send along a new sample we can get on with business.

Thank you,

-ACA

@ACA - That explains everything! LOL!

For my team whoever is there without lag plays. If 4 on 4 works without lag im for it. Everyone takes turns sitting out if all 4 show up and opponent has <= 3. Those volunteering to sit from lag or who have to leave and come back will supercede the sitting out order. Game absence without some sort of notification will constitute a warning. Anymore and my backup player (to remain incognito) will take their place on the team. I hate to lose from being undermanned.

Sound ok tally??

How is the rest of the captains gonna do this.

@ Bolo and all -

I think we may find too much conversation and confusion during game play if we attempt mid-game rotations. We typically have let the 2nd match procede immediately after the first match times out, so there wouldn't be an opportunity for the 4th player to drop in in a timely manner.

I would advise that the same 3 players that start the match, play through both matches to avoid any game delay and haggling. Captians would be responsible for confirming which 3 would play before logging onto the game server (this could be done effectively through email and AIM chats). If all 4 players are found to be availabe in the pre-match team discussion, then the Captain could designate which one would drop out if the other team doesn't have 4 players to show. To be fair to all players, the Captains should set up a rotation based on game days, designating who the "4th" player will be that game (the 4th player being the one that would drop if the opposing team doesn't have 4).

I'm just recalling past games where in the heat of running with the scrum, I haven't had time to look at the dialogue on the screen... The result is that you have haggling, and then a lack of support cuz your team is chatting rathter than playing.

This is how I'd like to handle my team, but I'd like to get input from all Captains. Hopefully we can come up with a standard protocol for all teams in handling rotations.

What do you think?

-ACA

BTW -

I'd like to reschedule the Saturday practice to be at 6pm PST/ 9pm EST if possible. Post here to confirm.

-ACA

How a Flea sees it...

@ ACA

My hunch is that we should plan for 3 players. As far as a rotation schedule goes, as long as the team is happy, that is all that counts for me. One of my players my have trouble playing Thursdays, and lag is always iffy. Last season we had friendly arguments over who got to sit out :-)

I see it a bit differently...

Is he calling us lesser pastries?

IS HE CALLING US LESSER PASTRIES?

Kinda looks like our larval baby picts ol'-buddy...

Nice smile!

@Tal

I need a little clarification here. Bolo statement, quoted below, seems to indicate he has a player on reserve. What is the mechanism for replacing players on a team. Is there a pool? Up to captains whims? If a team shows up short can they grab someone from the servers to fill in?

There are posts on the PsychoScrum Four Garage Games thread concerning this from the noted historian Az (unable as of yet to be able to post on PTT)

Baba, I missed that.

BOLO. This league doesn't work that way, no secret weapons. The only people eligible to play on your team are listed above next to your name. If we get 8 more guys total interested, then this will become a conversation.

Well actually that picture is all I could come up with as a reply. But your idea is better tal.

YOU ARE LESSER PASTRIES!!!

@ tally: so in the unlikely event we should have a player drop out or rarely show up, we are just stuck and cannot provide a permanent replacement? That will really suck if that happens to a team if there are games when not all the remaining 3 can show up.... Kinda what happened at the tail end of dementia...oh well

@ all

I meant that the person sitting out would sit out for both games. I meant we would rotate days to sit out...sry...

Also a set schedule of who is playing and sitting out cannot be determined with JB's military schedule. It would be nice if JB could play most or all the games he is able to and sit out when he is on a mission...

@ shell shockers:

I guess we will all have to meet in yahoo chat b4 the game and see who can play and wing it from there. See you all about 6:30 PST mon. Look for an email b4 then concerning strategy.

@tally

Is there a schedule of who is playing who yet?? I dont understand the above schedule...

-More suggestions please everybody-

All games will be occur on either monday or thursday at 7pm pacific time or 730 (due to server issues), same as psychos past.

That's all you have to know right now. I have to organize 14 games for 8 teams, then jam it on to the above table, ie 56 entries. I had the table worked out, then it got thrown into the bin of death. I will build it and you will play.

Secondly, lets cross bridges when we get to the river. If people are interested in joining the league, they should add their names here and I will start forming a player pool.

Nobody joins any team through that team / circumventing the league. That is why we had a draft.

In other words, if anybody in the league recruits, they do not recruit for their team- they recruit for the league.

"Let's cross bridges when we get to the river."

I like this guy -- born leader. Nice job Tally.

I have what I hope is a simple question. Is it customary for the team cap to play in ALL games, or should they get rotated out of the lineup every 4th game just like the other members? I realize I can probably do whatever I feel like, but since I haven't been in this before I was wondering if there was a general consensus.

Thanks.

And now to build up some hype!

Click on it for th full effect ;)

Yeah, this was fun to make.

OM

Nice :).

Btw, I'd advise captains rotate out like everyone else is, but there's no requirement.

@ Flea: Lol

@ Baklava: I noticed only tally is stuffed... Good work!

@ OM: coolio

Sluggestion to Captains for Rotating Roster

As a previous Captain (For Synaptia & Freudians & Semi-Dementia) I developped a fair system to revolve the roster.

Here is ow it works, from our Team (Black Sheep - Baba, Hugobrain, MJ & Reagent X)

Roster for game 1:

1 Baba

2 Hugobrain

3 MJ

(reserve - shows up but plays only in case one of the above is missing)

4 Reagent X

-----------------

Roster for game 2:

1 Reagent X

2 Baba

3 Hugobrain

(reserve)

4 MJ

-----------------

Roster for game 3:

1 MJ

2 Reagent X

3 Baba

(reserve)

4 Hugobrain

-----------------

And so on. The basic concepts are:

- You play a game, your name goes down one position in the list.

- You miss a game - your name goes to #1 in the list, thus you're sure to play in the next game.

This way everyone is sure to play its fair share, and the reserve should show up cause you don't know when there will be an opening.

Last edited: Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 9:21:03 PM

That seems like a good system Hugo. Thanks for the sugestion :)

@OM I think Monday will yield full attendance. Would your team play 4 on 4 ?

Last night by HDD burned up. I cannot replace it til stores open up on mon. I dont think I will be able to play by mon night. Seems this (my other) computer doesnt have a good enough graphics card to play TT. I am going to email my team and tell them I wanna sit out mon.

Good luck team!!!

@ tally, will you please advise in my absense in case problems arise

@ hugo. That seems like a good system. Gonna try that...

I hope to play thurs for sure. Maybe mon if I get it together.

Peace.

Yikes! 1st game and our Leader is already a casualty! I sense sabotage...

Who will lead for that game?

- Bomb...James Bomb

@Bolo- sorry to hear that. That rots! Talk about bad timing, eh?

Anyway, hope you get things straightened out.

@PREY- I believe I will have full attendance as well on Monday, but I still have my designated reserve. If we all show on both sides, I'm game for a 4on4. Let's just see what happens.

OM

Well gang I just got up I must say I am going thru serious TT withdraw.

Yeah sabatoge is right.... I think that last game of FieldofScrums was one of the last things my HDD saw of life. Maybe tally and flea used their powers and made my hard drive crash so they wouldnt have to face me....hehe. Well I wont stand for that. JB use your military status to get some real tanks and we will have psych-battlemode to the death. So get your helmets on and be ready...

Timing kinda sucks for this one. The computer store opens in an hour. Who knows with a bit of luck I may be ready for some late night thinktanks tonight!! Or I might be MIA til later this week. Who knows... My team hasnt sent any death threats by email yet....

@Tal - servers are critical.

Are they lined up?

Does Z still exist? Head under the hood (bonnet) fixing things?

With the two time sets of games it will be important that games start promptly and end on time. Thus we can't have the traditional 20-25 minutes of server testing, server swapping and general palaver before games are on.

Whats the final verdict tal, yes on 4 on 4 option or not?

Yeah, I'm with Baba! I haven't seen or heard anything about servers, and we're a little less than 30 hours away from game time.

Also, I may have missed this, but how are maps chosen? Randomly? Picked by team caps? Sorry, as I've said, I'm new at this, so I needs to know.

And can we do 4 on 4, or should we keep it strictly 3 on 3 regardless of attendance?

@OM I can Server host. I considered the first column to be the home team. If this is the case, Team Rubes never has a home field map choice. OM you can chose the map for our game. Each team is suppose to have a home field. Choose one. I would not recommend the Blue. Let me know before game time.

These can be

Green: Hypothalamus Hills, Medula Mesa, Cranium Crater, Freudian Flats

Blue: Pituatary Plateau, Greymatter Goarge, Comatose Canyon, Hippocampus Hollow

Red: Receptor Ridge, Neurotic Nexus, Ganglia Gully, Synaptic Slopes

Being tired of Lush. Would like to have Receptor Ridge as the Rubes home field. It is up to the team. Yo Rubes, vote for a home field. Majority rules.

@ all

Oh yea up and running already. Rock on. Dont have anything installed yet but I will.

@ shell shockers

Team pick a home map. My favs are receptor ridge, medulla. I dont care.

@ all

AZA has volunteered to host our game.

@ flea

AZA's server will definately handle 4 on 4 if u wanna do that. I can play.

@ Bolo

Waiting for roll-call response...

No home maps cats, the season is divided into thirds. I dont really care which particular map (per world) is played, just so long as the game rotates and both games are not on the same map. There are no home teams per se, but the first listed team should wear a color that the other team isn't wearing.

Meh. Ie green.

Also, hosts are not lined up. Captains: find out if you have hosts and email me.

Zed, donde estas?

Check here tomorrow morning for the final word on the 4 on 4 option.

@Tally Ho Can we start a new thread? This comes up slower than a laggy flea at Sunset. No offense!

Aye, perhaps a new thread will start tomorrow with the beginning of the season. Ya ya ok, and it will read

PSYCHO 5.0

Eyes be peeled

Tally,

It looks like The Clonus Horror is in need of a host server. We tried to host ourselves, but came up against servers not showing up and ones that did were laggy. Is there someone willing to host our games on Mondays and Thursdays? If not The Clonus Horror will be dependent on the team we play against, lest you want to risk the lagg that our team has to offer as host...

Help?

-ACA

All,

I am currently testing out the "Black Sheep" server. If all goes well I can host for our team.

Jump in and let me know if there is lag. I have a Mac G4 733MHz running panther, and a Comcast cable connection.

-Reagent X

I don't think anyone can see my server because of my router (Linksys router). Any ideas on how to allow access?

-Reagent X