What is the best way to solve this? Just keep refreshing until doomsday, quit the game and restart, quit & reboot your computer, sacrifice a goat, what?

Any suggestions?

Yeah, thats the same with me!

NO ONE CAN SEE MY MODS WAAAAAAH!!!!

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Last edited: Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 8:01:41 AM

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Last edited: Friday, March 26, 2004 at 11:16:07 PM

Yes, this is a real problem and someone should let Joe know about this.

This morning, OM was hosting a server that Lancer and ROGUE could see, but Bolo and LC50 could not. I checked the gnometech server monitor, and the server was up. Both Bolo and I refreshed about 20 times each, restarted TT, etc., but could not make OM's server reappear.

I have had this problem a few times before, but it usually subsides after 4-6 refreshes.

When OM ran a "create-a-server" (not dedicated), his server appeared to me (after a few refreshes) but not to Bolo.

I then ran a dedicated server, which could be seen by all but Bolo.

Bolo ran a server, but I don't think anyone could see it. It wasn't on gnometech, but there were a few servers that were listed as "timed out". This is weird because I know I joined one of Bolo's servers during the 3 on 3 scrum tourney a few months ago.

What is the PROBLEM here? This is soooo frustrating!!!!

LC₅₀

Last edited: Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 2:49:41 PM

I had a curious problem the other night after the league games. I stuck around for a few games after the league match had finished, and when I left, I could see no servers - no matter how many times I refreshed. Stayed that way for over an hour, but they were all showing up on the Gnome list. I tried everything including rebooting but all to no avail.

-Z-

I have this problem in psycho all the time...its a gamble whether I can see our match server...unless it is prey or aza I usually have to refresh, restart TT, and have them restart their server b4 I can see it...this has happened with reagant x's server, om's server, and others I can remember...also when I look at a server list right b4 a psycho match I see maybe 2 or 3 psycho servers...never see them alll...this is really frustrating...JB once told me to clear my TT cache by restarting TT...that doesnt always work. The gnometech server monitor isnt always in agreement with the TT game server list...i dont know what it could be unless somehow these servers have a ping that is sooooo high I cant see them...i have cable internet so I dont know what gives....

Yeah, I'm not sure what gives with this, but it seems it's becoming increasingly unreliable as to whether or not all players can see a hosted server or not. I don't recall having such a sever hosting problem as what I had on Saturday when LC50 and Bolo could not find mine.

Funny thing is, if no players could see it, I could understand that. But Lancer and ROGUE popped in no problem. Why were LC50 and Bolo not able to see it? We really need to get this looked into. If it continues to get any worse, we may start to have issues with league games (i.e. Players not able to show up)

There also doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. It's not like, all Mac users could see my server, but PC users couldn't, or only EST could see it, etc. It's very random. Does anyone out there have a clue why this is happening?

I emailed Joe about this, and unfortunately this is possibly a internet speed/bandwidth problem. Most likely, a fix will need to come from the Bravetree end, unless we all go buy more bandwidth.

Joe also suggested monkeying with the "$pref::Net:" values (in pref.cs file of the the TTgameclient folder):

These are the defaults:

$Pref::Net::LagThreshold = "400";

$pref::Net::PacketRateToClient = "10";

$pref::Net::PacketRateToServer = "32";

$pref::Net::PacketSize = "200";

Any suggestions from the peanut gallery on modifying those values?

Maybe Bolo could get toghether with OM or myself and we could tinker around to see if Bolo's situation improves.

LC₅₀

Last edited: Monday, March 29, 2004 at 8:18:59 PM

So I increase the lag threshold??? Is it in miliseconds....guys what should I change them too (I can experiment but why if u guys already have...) :)

Thanks,

Maybe 800?

Duuuuuuuuuuude I changed it to 900 and have had NO problems since.....dont know maybe its a coincidence

I changed my LagThreshold to 0, I get almost every server up.

Note (from that site)

Don't rely upon that site. I check out just fine but still have lag issues.

-Z-

Last edited: Thursday, April 01, 2004 at 6:26:58 PM

Oh man, I can't believe I haven't given you (esp Mac users) my fav links for tracking down my lag issue. Maybe I did, sorry for the repete. The second was most important. No big help in a way, I now know what the issue is I just don't have any control over it other than to bitch to my ISP until they do something. Anyway:

Esp for OS X

ANL Web100 based Network Diagnostic Tester (NDT)

Thanks to PREY for the 2nd site. Be sure to click on the statistics.

Everything good according to those sites...dont know about how to tweak the lag threshold...will have to wait and see...

WAhhhhhhhhh I have a router and no1 can c my MOD's! I mean I would have sooooo many oin dedicated I have like 16 by now...

I dont think any of this helped....i still cant see all the servers....the other day we all left a big indie game to goto the frantic slug...no matter what I did I couldnt see the server...and to this day I am unable to see LC's server...seems like lately there is hardly anyone on...i think everyone is on crowded servers I cant see....i dont get it...any other thoughts....it is a pain in the ass to check the gnometech site just to see if people are hiding somewhere.....between this and lag I dont know what is worse lately....

B

May be lag :) XD :'( ;) :S %) :[ :P XO :o :( X/ B) 8o 8(

As I said before:

This is how I think the main TT server works (da big daddy server that connects all da weany servers that you play on)

When TT searches, the main server asks all of its internet ports whether its hosting a game

Usually, a weany server will say "Game running: stats: Freudian Flats..."

The main server will wait a few seconds then send the info to the player

BUT SOMETIMES, a weany server will take to long to say "Game running" (ping is too large) so they will miss the outgoing signal to the player and this player won't notice that theres a "hidden/ghost game" running

There are many times when hardly anybody or even nobody is on the servers and I still cannot see them. With enough restarting and refreshing eventually I can USUALLY see them...PAIN

B

To bolo:

The bots still seem to "play the game" even if there are no players in the game.

You think the bots aren't playing becuase the server resets the scores and makes the bots reappear

Since the bots are still playing the game, they will take up cpu thinking time (ping will increase)

^{I think thats right} :[ :[ :( 8o 8( :S

Ask Z or the game designers

No, the bots are non-existent when a real player is not in the server.

This totally sucks....everyone went to the baaaarnyard and I cant see the server....for some reason I can see lepords' ptt, shockwave, homelan ALL the time. Any other server there is a 50/50 chance...talley mentioned he couldnt find it either...

I have heard from at least 5 people that this happens from time to time..

Is bravetree going to address this issue in 1.2?

Any other ideas besides refreshing, restarting TT, restarting pc, restarting router??

I figured out that those prefs.cs client stuff above affect the lag icon in game and not the server list

This is infuriating...

B

Anyone had the game lock windows up?? Just playing some frantic slug when I locked up....game crashed....system crashed....restarted system.....had to restart router...renew ip.....back to TT....server is there but I cant see it

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh DAM this game

B

You just get probalem after problem dont you Bolo?

Man, sounds like it's time to drop that machine out a window and start over from scratch.

Well....i got 2 machines hooked up to a router...my old machine gets 2.6mb down and 100k up. My good machine gets 100down and 100up...tried bypassing router, etc...must need to reload the OS on my good machine...wont have time 4 awhile...hopefully that will solve the lag and server seeing problems....

B

Hate to say exactly what codemaster said earlier^

But no one can c my mods

Is this my prob or their prob with their comp?

TaKeNo

Last edited: Friday, August 27, 2004 at 8:31:47 PM

Can someone PLEASE solve the problem? I got mods to share and I can't! I'm really mad! 8(

Me too guys. Nobody gave a staright forward answer to this question I asked.

Side note:

One of the most frustrating things in TT for me is to know that a server is up (via ptt or gnometech) and not be able to see it.

For a while I thought it was just some sorta glitch because nothing would fix the problem.

I have solved my particular problem and maybe it might help someone else.

If I can see every server but the one I want to join all I do is turn off zonealarm (substitute your personal firewall here maybe)

THEN I can see the server...

Join it

Then turn zonealarm back on....then everything's fine

99% of the time I can see servers fine without doing anything.............

I have absolutely no idea why this problem exists...i have done numerous tests with ping, packet transfer, etc and everything seems the same whether I have zonealarm on or not

B