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^ there are indeed... -.- but I wanted to get my point across. The republicans, I've noticed, are quite overly stressful in forcing upon others their ways...
I use multi-billion dollar military satellites to find tupperware hidden in the woods... What do YOU do?
I try to avoid anything about politics, but this thread is some of the most entertaining reading I've had in a while.
I work with a guy that fought in Iraq. He came home wounded, and is still in the reserves. Last night we were shootin' the breeze, and I asked him what he thought of the war. His exact words were: "It's absolutely ridiculous." He then said something like: "$#@!, @%$# Bush. %@$ Oil."
I have a feeling alot of "Blessed Troops" feel the same way. Our soldiers know
this war is BS. Sad and scary.
I hate to say something so harsh, but have any of you noticed how alot of the people that blindly follow Bush are the same people that blindly follow Jesus?
Yes, fishtank, they're the same folks that no longer display their "What Would Jesus Do?" bumper stickers because they know it would be too damned hypocritical.
^ Unfortunately the bible pounding republican catholic idiot does not represent all christians... Just like KKB does not represent all republicans...
I don't like the sterotypical christian and I don't like bush very much either.
I can't understand why you guys resort to sterotypes invoving christians, when in the same conversation, you would flame someone out talking about jews or racial issues in this way.
Unfortunately, many christians live up to the negative stereotypes around here....reinforcing the stereotype. It is odd that many of the most vocal in their religious beliefs are simultaneously the stupidest....kkb is a great case in point. Stupid, christian, and a blind follower of jingoistic madmen. I must say though, I don't know many...actually...any bush supporters who aren't religious. Not to say that it is a prerequisite, but it seems to help.
Fortunately, there are many christians here that are reasonable and intelligent. They seem to get over-shadowed by these characatures of christianity...like kkb and others.
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^ Perhaps all those big business moguls?
I can agree with you stinky
Yes unfortunately the majority of christains do live up to that stereotype, makes me want to smack them across the head.
But there are also plenty of racial sterotypes that fit in as well... I was just curious.
I do know a few republicans who are athiest...
I don't know them well so as to their intelligence or why they are republican I don't know.
One of them is my former history teacher.
Wow can ya just feel the testosterone in this thread? I think this is gonna be my last post in this one, I was having some fun poking at a few folks and man this thing has got down right serious. This is all a matter of beliefs, some people say that christians blindly follow their leader, not true tho. Because the Bible is very specific about following those in leadership and they are just doing what the Bible says to do Whether you believe it's right wrong or indiffrent thats what it says. Now as far as hypocritical Christians go, man I am sure I have been that before and prolly will again , I am in no means perfect I am however a Christian, do I believe in the war? I just answered the question 5 lines up, do I believe it's right? I feel were doing the right thing, try and imagine where Sadam would be today if nothing would have been done, man I don't even want to think about that. And no matter what side your on in this thread you know that if nothing would have been done Saddam would be wreaking havoc somewhere, maybe even here. Just my two cents kids, wOOtie is ouuuuuuuut!!
WooT
Oh and BTW Have a nice day XD
Hey stink, If these weapons are totally harmless then why don't we bury them in your back yard!!
Your Favorite Idiot
Last edited: Friday, June 30, 2006 at 4:14:04 PM
Boy, I thought I had started a positive post here until my liberal friends try to drag down the good news.
SOOOOO typical. It drives the communists nuts when they see that Bush and Co. Doing the right things in Iraq.
Wah wah wah, lets throw oil into the mix. Lets bitch about the prisoners at Club Guintanemo. Lets cry about all the DEATHS. Certainly there werent many when Saddam was in power. Why werent you crying then?
TYPICAL liberal response. Lets turn the tables. Lets twist the story. The only thing y'all are good at twisting are big fat doobies with your hippy drug hazed mentality.
FOOLS!! You all are FOOLS!!!! And you all will realize it someday...
I'm beginning to wonder who really is the one taking drugs.
Good point, DW (and the idiot does not have to be of the catholic variety). I was speaking of a relatively small sampling of people I either know personally or have come across during their campus proselytizing. Even though this is a small sampling of folks compared to the population of the US, it always seems to be fairly vocal folks who lose track of their message when The Invasion Of Iraq is held up next to What Would Jesus Do? In the exclusion/inclusion test.
And I also know plenty of non-religious republicans: most of my friends from high school (southern Louisiana) and college (Jackson, Mississippi) as well as some past and present co-workers in the Midwest. They happen to be republicans for a variety of reasons, but the most prominent one is fiscal conservatism. I have a feeling (hence, I have no credible article at hand to link) that folks like these comprise a bulk of the 2000/2004 Bush voters that are no longer in the "I Approve of the Job President Bush is Doing" column in many recent polls.
Is it possible to be a Republican, Catholic and not support Bush?: Or are we all stupid since we meet two of three?
Let me clarify something:
Any of you noticed how alot of the people that blindly follow
"alot" meaning most
, not all
. I guess I meant the stereotype that stinkfist reffered to.
And you all will realize it someday...
Maybe, maybe not. I think our Grandkids will learn about this war in History class, but the lesson won't be about America saving the world. I think it'll be more about a corrupt government and an incompetent President.
The only thing y'all are good at twisting are big fat doobies with your hippy drug hazed mentality.
That statement is offensive and completely inaccurate. I'm good at alot of other things, also.
Just my two cents kids, wOOtie is ouuuuuuuut!!
Ditto. Except for the "wOOtie" part.
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Oh and I couldn't find the one that has to resort to calling names and tries to belittle people because they have different views.
Neither could I, unfortunately.
SOOOOO typical.
Wah wah wah
FOOLS!! You all are FOOLS!!!!
The only thing y'all are good at twisting are big fat doobies with your hippy drug hazed mentality.
LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME LOL
Drive by liberal news dumb butts!!
Love you STINK because you really stink!!!
Hmmm...
Pinko
Tireless Rebutter
Didn't get all of 'em.
I'm a mix of Atheist, Pinko, Ideologue (doh), Net Rat, and Rottweiler Puppy.
But I really wouldn't want to be this guy:
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Hey Stink. So be it. I'm stupid because I don't agree with you. THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE.
I posted some positive news that the drive by media has been screaming for and now it isn't good enough. When are you guys gonna get tired of chasing your tails? The war is going very well and troop withdrawals are on the horizon. I guess THAT would be the wrong thing to do too? Gimme a frickin break child.
Also FYI I dont use drugs. I have a beautiful wife and three children. I live in a wonderful neighborhood in Kentucky that totally supports the war. I live in a town called Independence ironically. I also make over a six figure income. Stupid? :P
I also make over a six figure income.
Well, that certainly explains a lot.
EDIT: If you're actually interested in debating, check out http://revleft.com/
These people know their stuff.
Last edited: Saturday, July 01, 2006 at 11:18:02 AM
^ Know their stuff? You mean, know their own opinion? Not stuff that I agree with.
Maybe they know some FACTS...ever considered that? They've done RESEARCH and found that their opinions are justified.
Yes! I love research, what do you want me to justify?
Here's one fact: communism is an absolute joke. Has it succeeded anywhere yet?
USSR: Nope. China:nope. Cuba:nope. Norh Korea: nope. North Vietnam: nope. Nicaragua: nope. Eastern Europe: nope. Did I forget anybody?
@Nuts: AM I NUTS!?!?
Here's one fact: You don't even know the definition of communism.
Fact #2: Neither the USSR, China, Cuba, DPRK, North Vietnam, Nicaragua, or Eastern Europe are or ever were communist.
"I am a pink fairy from Jupiter."
Just because I said I'm a pink fairy from Jupiter, doesn't mean I am.
LOL! Ok missy, what do you call these states then. They all "called" themselves communist by name as we all know. They are actually socialist. Nazi Germany was Socialist too. But what are they now?
Most of these states have eased up the reighns and have added some good ole American capitolism and have lived to see another day, sans North Korea and Cuba. :P
China: The Glitter and the Poison
In recent years, votaries of China's "market socialism" have marvelled at the speed of China's growth. The stunning skylines of China's redeveloped coastal cities and interior state capitals have left vistors in awe; and even those who have not had a chance to actually visit China are favorably intrigued by pictures of China's ultra-modern central business districts. With their broad avenues and towers of glass and steel soaring into the sky and impeccably paved sidewalks aesthetically enhanced with potted plants and greenery, China's cities display an elan that trumps New York or London. One might be tempted to think that China had finally arived on the international scene as a marvel of modern urban planning - a veritable model for other developing nations to emulate.
Without the obstacles and hindrances posed by private property rights, city governments have been able to redevelop entire urban zones with an alacrity and panache that appears quite stunning in comparison to the hotch-potch unplanned growth that one sees in most Indian cities. Clearly, state ownership of land has allowed China to accomplish a level of infrastructural development that is quite impressive.
Yet beneath the stylish and handsome urban facades is another reality that is not only just uncomfortable but perilously damaging. In April of this year, an AFP report mentioned that China officially acknowledged 6000 deaths of miners in 2004. Mining deaths in the first quarter of 2005 were up 20% over the previous year. Unofficial estimates however point to figures as high as 20,000. Although China produces about 30-35% of the world's coal, it is responsible for over 80% of mining deaths. 600,000 miners are reported to suffer from the debilitating black lung condition - a figure that is expected to grow by 70,000 annually. In 2003, China had officially reported over 17,000 deaths due to industrial accidents, though again, independent observers feel that is a significant under-estimate.
But this is not the only price paid by China's hapless workers. Not only are average working shifts for China's migrant construction workers much longer than the world average, workers are often simply not paid. According to estimates by the official Beijing Review in 2004, almost three quarters of the nation's migrant workers were owed wages amounting to over $12 Billion.
China's gleaming skyscrapers also impose many other sacrifices on the part of China's urban residents. Unlike in the rest of the world, there are few noise limits on China's construction companies. Whereas the Indian Supreme Court has put limits on construction activities so that residents are to be spared the assault of construction noise after sunset, it is routine for China's constuction companies to continue work well into the wee hours of the night. On week-nights, it is rare for construction to cease before midnight, and on weekends, it is not unusual for it to continue past 2 AM. Unending traffic jams and high levels of dust pollution are also par for the course.
In 2003-4, a World Bank study found that 16 of the 20 most polluted cities in the world were in China. Environmental activists in Hongkong are especially furious at the way the Chinese government has rigged its pollution-reporting algorithms so as to routinely downplay the incidence of daily pollutants. For instance, the Chinese environmental agency reports pollution levels for 84 major cities at this link: SEPA - Ambient Air Quality Reports for 84 Cities. On most days,it
would appear that Chinese cities are not especially polluted, and pollution is well within stipulated norms. But a look at the formulae used to calculate pollution levels reveals an amazing sleight of hand. Through sheer statistical jugglery, the Chinese government succeeds in routinely under-reporting pollution by a factor of two or three. In extreme cases, SO2 and NO2 pollution could be actually 4 or 5 times higher than that reported by the government.
Stories in the Hongkong press have often cited residents complaining of getting discolored water in their taps - of it being muddy and brown, and entirely unfit to drink. The government, on the other hand, has claimed continued progress in the fight against air and water pollution. But going by the manner in which the Chinese government reports its air pollution data, such claims by the Chinese government merit a cautionary measure of skepticism.
Given the high rate of industrial accidents and toxic spills every year, it is not at all surprising that Chinese citizens complain as often about water that has a bad odour or an unusual color. Given the Chinese government's history of cover-ups, it is no accident that it took the government ten whole days to share the truth about the highly toxic benzene spill that polluted the Songhua river near the northern city of Harbin. Russian authorities were justifiably troubled by the late notice they were given of the looming disaster.
While governments throughout the world are guilty of prevarication and double-speak, the absence of an independent press, and the utter lack of democracy makes the situation in China considerably worse. Had the Chinese government been more forthcoming with its people, it is likely that residents would have had more time to store up on drinking water - preventing the sort of last-minute price-gouging that water-vendors were able to engage in. Poor residents were especially hard hit, because they owned few storage containers, and without adequate warning could do little to ameliorate their situation. And unsuprisingly, it wasn't just Harbin that was facing the consequences of a poisoned river - the city of Chongqing was also presented with a toxic leak in its river at about the same time.
Yup, state-capitalism is just THE best...
DPRK is a Juche dictatorship, a distorted and twisted version of Marxism that no proper communist would approve of. Cuba is trying, but not perfect.
@Monica. Need a plane ticket? :)
Well, the War In Iraq is finally making strides. Zarquari is dead, Saddam is on trial, and the allies have found over 550 pieces of WMD. NOW the war is definately worth it!!!
I have been on the road with my new vocation and I have met many veterans that say that the media never speaks the truth about the great doings of our beloved American soldiers.
Things such as rehabbing schools and hospitals. Giving food to the needy and the like.
I met a recently retired vet of the US Navy in Florence Kentucky that said that 19 to 20 year old boys in Iraq would run up to our soldiers and give them many thanks for changing their lives.
Why doesnt the frickin communist media report these things! It makes me ill.
What are your alls thoughts?
GOD BLESS THE USA!!