Us music has been great until the 90's hit.....

Seems that rock (ie kansas, etc) has fused into good alternative (soundgarden, chainz, etc) and good 90's alternative has fused into no talent ass clowns (ie 3 doors down, etc)...

Seems good metal(metallica, maiden, etc) fused into decent 90's new metal (KorN, Pantera) that fused into crappy 7 string rappish crap metal...(bizkit, etc)

Good 80's pop (m jackson, phil collens, etc) is now no talent (spears, backdoor boys, etc)

Blues and jazz and classical died years ago (sadly) the newer artists cant even make a living

Country is now countryrock or fused with southern rock..(this is good but the old country was talent too)

Rap used to be ok (mc hammer, etc) since then it isnt even music......just gangsters

Prog was good when yes, floyd, ELP started it and it gets better every year....never made it in the US because the citizens are too stupid to realize good music has substance

Great britian, italy, france, japan, finland, netherlands, germany...these countries sell records of the american artists with talent...mainly prog and a couple top 40 bands....most real talented american bands spend more time touring in these countres than here because the US has no support for them...

Az its too bad the kids these days dont understand good music...

The boomers did (beatles, etc)

70's did

80's did

90's started to slip

2000 on it keeps getting worse....i cant even find a radio station worth acrap so I just play cds

Goto kingofguitar.net: stephan king....usa's national fingerpicking champion..top 5 guitarist in the world...i saw him at a taylor guitars convention...he walked out of there with less than 100$ for the gig....the guy cant even make a living on his music...yet nsync cant spend it all....ACKKKKKKKKKKKKK

B

Milli Vanilli anyone?

Az, I gather you work in the industry?

--daisy

@Az

White Stripes are incredible. If you haven't done so already, check out Pete Yorn too.

Az:

White Stripes are good.....Lindsay is one of my favorite guitar players. Never cared for the band as a whole except for a few songs...

All:

My first concert was Megadeth/Sevendust/Monster Magnet back in 96. Most recent concert was Symphony X earlier this year. Most underrated band = Symphony X. Check em out if u like prog or metal. My X-band just entered an international song writing contest...i am sorta involved since I wrote the intro guitar part. I wanna see if it makes the top 1,000....

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Bump

Yeah Daisy, thats my background. Could ya tell? Lol. Both indie and major. For the most part I worked with great people both on the artist side and label side. Real 'music' people. I was lucky.

Bolo, check out The Yardbirds if you get a chance. Clapton, Beck, & Page were all alumni. My all-time favorite riff is in a song of theirs called "Over Under Sideways Down". Also The Jeff Beck Group album is awesome blues with Rod Stewart on vocals pre-Faces.

Thanks for the tip 44.

Az

Az, so what would you recommend for a rootsy band looking to keep control of the music, and yet have some decent distribution? I play mandolin in such a band, with pretty regular airplay on CBC radio (our NPR) and lots of fans throughout BC (home province) and some in the rest of Canada?

--daisy

My first real concert was an East Coast Canada band called Eric's Trip. I don't think they exist anymore, but have splintered into several other groups. (Elevator to Hell, Moonsocket, etc.) The were pioneers in the 'Low-Fi' sound in the late eighties/early nineties. I also saw them with Sloan, another east coast band, that is still going. They were quintessential canadian pop there for a while, and now have recessed to rehashing 70's rock with cheery harmonies, but they have some killer songs. Check out their song Underwhelmed if you can find it. Another band doing some cool stuff was the Matthew Good band (Vancouver) and Bif Naked (if you can get past the name, she is a great song writer and a well-thought-of artist in Canada. Also, if you like chick bands and rootsy harmonies, my friends The Wailin' Jennys will folk your world.

--that's all for now

Dd

Mushroom jazz??? Tip hop??? Jungle???elctroclash???ambient??? They r some good musik alive if u have an open mind...

Check out electric skychruch (deus) on itunes.

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Az:

Yea I love the yardbirds....beck was the first to use heavy distortion in a song....the yardbirds are accredited with inventing heavy metal....after page joind I think they were the "new yardbirds" then later led zepplin......cant remember exactly how the story went....bunch of legends there...

BTW anyone who mentions dave mathews should be shot

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Heh, "Too Much" is admittedly a good song from Dave Matthews, though it was overplayed. He's pretty much been a bore since that song. One-hit wonder that somehow stays alive, if you ask me.

Damn, this thread is good just for the band references! Never thought I'd see a cool music source in PTT.

- BombJames Bomb

Speaking of band references, is there any such list on the Net for those 90's bands? There's a song that I keep remembering from time to time that I'd love to download..er...buy, but I don't know who sang the song. I know they were part of that "Seven Mary Three" movement, but I don't think they recorded the song I have in mind. Any ideas where I can look for mind joggers?

Bolo, you ever listen to the small faces? Eerie...robert plant ripped off half his stuff from these guys.

Dave mathews? Poppy, likable, tame. The new hootie and the blowfish. I'm a long time fan of "guided by voices"...though their last couple of albums pull up lame.

The older stuff is an amazing mix of absurdity, low-fi and an amalgamation of pop-genres in a tongue and cheek fashion. Bee thousand and Alien lanes are masterpieces. Long-time indy credentials.

Lately, I like the shins, modest mouse, and interpol...even though I'm too old for for the stuff.

Small faces doesnt ring a bell....i'll have to check my archives...plant and page ripped off a ton of crap...well everyone does..

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Yeah, but listen to the small faces wail...plant's debt to them is heavy...almost plagerism...

Not that I don't like zep...i like them heaps.

*cough* http://www.nbc13.com/entertainment/3333066/detail.html *cough*

-- Hassle the Hoff

Good grief, I guess Germany has the same problem as the U.S. When it comes to pushing the weak sh__.

- BombJames Bomb

@56k- Rapper Hasslehoff?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!!! That's gotta be the funniest thing I've ever heard. I would ALMOST pay money to see that Nah!! ROFLOL!!

Hassle the Hoff!?!? ROFLOL!! Did Rook$ have anything to do with this?