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West coast servers are horrid. Even for the west coasters? WTF

How bout a Centrally based server?

Chicago, St louis???

5 bucks a month from 30 people?

Gimme ideas

B

Friday, October 21, 2005 at 9:39:39 PM

NUTS! And I are working seperately on this very thing. I had to jetison the Atlanta servers at Unixshell.com because they were a bit short on processor. NUTS is waiting for a test server to go online from a game server outfit. If that's no good then I'll be trying out a server colocation facility in Des Moines.

Friday, October 21, 2005 at 11:13:12 PM

Yeah still havn't heard back from the game server facility who said they should have something this week. I am also looking into two different server facilities similiar to unixshell but based in Chicago. Hopefully should have something by next week.

 

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 4:59:56 AM

Sure you will, you guys are just teasing us ! :P

 

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 5:01:51 AM

Maybe a server in the middle of the pacific, Then it works for us euro's too ! ;)

But seriously - If you can find one where Dash was hosting his TS server that would be fantastic - I was pining around 120-150 there and it was great !

BRING BACK THE RETRO MAPS!

 

 

 

 

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 6:35:31 AM

Pacific... No thanks. I rather would take North Atlantic. Great location could be: Azores or Island of Newfoundland. Don't know if they got great connections there thought. XD

You don't have to let go of one rope before grabbing the other. But you'll have to let go of one if you want to swing forward.

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 6:58:48 AM

I am setting up Team Scrum and Indi Scrum servers over here on the east coast. Won't be 24-7 but I will try and run them alongside my racing server from 1:00pm EST to 12:00pm EST.

Note that I am hosting this on my own Dell Precision 420 (IMO that has the best case ever made) workstation being hosted from my own house. I don't run it 24-7 because my parents do not want me to run up the electric bills.

There may be a bit of lag because I am hosting over wireless... I have no choice.

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 7:15:16 AM

We cant afford a dash server. His bandwith alone costs thousands per month. Ive never rented a game server. I trust that blind and nuts have experience in this matter. Lets get napalm in on this too.

Id like to shoot for st louis, chicago, kansas city, omaha, des moines, etc where there is close tracert to a major ISP hardware system like at & t. Such an example should ping well from coast to coast.

Lets get some ideas and post ip addresses. Ping them and post results.

This is one in my area.
http://www.mtco.com/games/gameservers.php?main

B

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 8:47:32 PM

::: shudder :::

Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 8:49:50 PM

And we shall call it the Bolo server. Um you probably already know the major trunks go through Colorado.

West Coast is SF. East is NY and middle is Colorado or Maybe St. Louis, but that is pushing it. Using just the UUnet maps:
http://www.cpuguys.net/uunetmap.htm

Check the OC48's and follow them. That is your major city network hub. The more that go into a city the better.

The prices BC has found are good. Still think the people who live at the major hubs, will give the best game. So Rx near SF. The East'ees in NY..

 

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Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 10:02:25 PM
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Proposal: Locate server with maximum distance from Bolo and minimum average distance from everyone else. Call it the Bolo Handicapping Server.

Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 5:00:06 AM

It seems Chicago and St. Louis are the best central hubs for the US with Chicago being best when you factor in the Canadians.

Here are the factors specific to serving TT games that I've been able to determine:

• Because of our small user base we need no more than 50 GB transfer/month.

• Because the loading of maps at the start of each game produces a spike in CPU usage (hence momentary lag in the other games on the processor), one game per processor is optimum. If we are willing to put up with momentary lag we could run multiple servers on one processor because the servers use minimal CPU once the maps are loaded.

As far as the PSL games go a three processor solution would be ideal. Old laptops without screens would be great because they're cheap and small. Their lack of disk performance/space is not a problem for serving TT games.

Does anybody have an old laptop they can donate to the cause? Didn't the Professor punch out the screen on a laptop? :)

Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 5:25:23 AM

I host on a Dell Precision 420, which has dual 733mhz PIII and 256mb of ram. I plan to have three games running. The server used to web host for IBM before they trashed it and my dad took it home.

"EastCoast Servers by 445"

Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 9:08:24 AM

Chicago is probably the best central location. I had to stop hosting 2 servers at the same time as the one that dash bash is running on is under pretty heavy use now (making money so dash doesn't have to). While I would rather have good TT Servers in some other data centers, If you guys will come up with a rack server (or something small) I can throw it in the rack next to the dashbash server for free . You'll enjoy the same connection dash bash has and I won't have to manage it, you will! This offer is for linux and mac OSX servers only, I don't want some hacked windows box sucking my bandwidth. Caveat: you pay shipping to get the box to me and shipping to get it back to you when you decide you hate thinktanks and want to use the server for something else.
Anybody interested?

Dash

 

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 5:53:06 PM

I'll send an email tonight. Thank you for this offer Dash, it is most generous.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 6:02:44 PM

Dash,

As you know I am in Michigan area too, I can bring ya a few old computers that could be used and run remote admin, call me via email/yahoo to discuss logistics.

Lep

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 6:09:17 PM

@dashy
Thank you!

@all
Looks like Fatpipes has a test server out there titled as Think Tanks server. Check it out see what you think.

 

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 6:38:12 PM

Oh wow dash...thanks!!

Lets get organized and figure out what we need and how much it costs.

Everyone test the test server!

B

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 9:50:41 PM

Wahoo! On behalf of ALL the Euro's I say thank you! Dash Bash has the best ping for us euro's - Well me anyway - I ping around 130 in Dash Bash which Is excellent for me, its always second from top of my list.

Thanks Alot Dash!

 

 

 

 

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 1:50:49 AM

Played a few games in the Fatpipes test server last night. Its the Think Tanks server serving Battle mode. Had good ping but a few hiccups. I requested that they throw up a lush team scrum server with no bots to see if that helps. Apparently the bots like to play on and eat cpu when no one is even there, freakin bots.

 

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 5:14:19 AM

I love your server NUTs, The one that Dash is hosting alongside DashBash - Very good selection of the old Classic PSL8 Maps, The best Map collection ever made!

 

 

 

 

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 6:04:54 AM

@pedro
Thanks, I love those maps too. How is your ping to the Thinktanks server that is running windows and lush battle mode. That too is coming out of Chicago were mine is coming out WI.

 

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 6:25:45 AM

These are my top 5 Servers:

***Paradise Lost*** - Ping = 36
Thinktanks Server (BattleMode) - Ping = 132
NUTS!: dancehall (psl8) - Ping = 150
DashBash - Ping = 132
MOD Nap's EASY STREET - Ping = 120 (Not at the top of my list because of the low CPU)

 

 

 

 

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 7:00:54 AM

I'm pinging about 15ms at mtco.com, better than I get at dashbash. I would LOVE IT if someone put a server there

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 8:07:55 AM

I ping at 127.919/2928.33/28061.2 ms to mtco.com

Anything around 130 is good for me, being in england

 

 

 

 

Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 8:18:53 AM

I ping mtco.com at 48 from the east coast.

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 9:08:10 AM

Fatpipes server felt good when I played alone. Might me different with more people and can't say if my tank starts to freeze near other tanks. What's that mtco.com pinging?

You don't have to let go of one rope before grabbing the other. But you'll have to let go of one if you want to swing forward.

Friday, October 28, 2005 at 3:05:34 AM

Mtco pings 5ms for me....its only a few miles away (hehe)

Fatpipes 23

B

Friday, October 28, 2005 at 6:37:08 PM

Fatpipes 110 - The lowest american ping ive had

 

 

 

 

Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 2:41:40 AM

I was in fatpipes and it was a bit hiccupy with on ly me there ;p
ah well guess thas what you get for being in england and using wireless

Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 10:43:54 AM

What has become of this?

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 at 8:36:17 PM

Talking with mammothgames they should have a test server for us soon (I hope). Fatpipes was great ping but "jumpy" and they wanted about $50 a month.

 

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 at 9:33:08 PM

Crappipes.

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 at 11:34:54 PM

On a brighter note, I just shipped the mini to Dash tonight. With any luck it will be online for the PSL9 post season.

I also got a quote of $420/yr. ($35/mo.) from http://www.colomart.com to colocate any size computer. That's for 1 Mbps from Dallas which would accomodate 30 players at a time. So if our other cheaper options aren't enough for us we can consider them.

Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 3:28:03 PM

^sounds good, how can I help?

 

Friday, November 11, 2005 at 9:59:04 PM

30 players at a time!!? Wow. :)
Could be some really fun games. I'd pay to see that too!

Friday, November 11, 2005 at 10:16:28 PM

To whom do I send my bucks :)

Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 2:31:54 AM

No bucks needed for the mini in dash's data center rack. Thanks dash!

I hesitate to send off hardware and pay a year's contract ($420) at colomart, or pay elsewhere, because my cable ISP is supossed to offer 10/1 by the end of the year. I ping 12 to Chicago at the moment which is as good as dash's data center. So I'm inclined to wait and see if my upgraded cable might provide the rest of what we would need.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 6:38:54 AM

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