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Earlier today I got called a diver. I was being shot at as usual because I had the scrum, but I was on the edge and eventually I died and then the scrum fell off the edge so it respawned, I grabbed the scrum because it was close and then score because the goal was even closer. Whats your verdict on this? Is it diving or just a simple strategy? They should know If I died the scrum would fall off the edge.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 5:01:25 PM
LGM

Diving is driving off so you can respawn. Maybe the player didn't see you die before the scrum fell.

It's not always good to kill someone on the edge.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 5:15:42 PM

If you intentionally drove of the edge it's diving. If you get killed near the edge it's game play. There nothing that says you will spawn where the scrum spawns. It's perfectly fine. It does however break up game flow if this happends to often.

 

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 5:25:32 PM

Well I'll do my best not to do it too much.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 5:34:37 PM

If it's an occasional thing it's alright, but some players automatically head for the edge, thinking no one will kill them because then the flag will drop. This is a favorite tactic of Tanty as well.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 6:24:16 PM

But tanty doesn't always try to score...

Pray to GOD for him to reveal himself to you.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 6:33:36 PM

Using wall/edge/cliff driving as a strategy is disruptive, cheap and weak.

When a player drives along the cliff for a long period of time it is for one purpose; to die and drop the scrum in to the fog with the hopes for a good spawn.
Pretty much every-time a player tries to run on the sides they either fall or die and in both cases the scrum is lost and they respawn.

This is not really any different than "Diving" except it forces the other players to have to chase them along the side wasting time until they inevitably die.

The part about how, you do it so that "players wont shoot, because they fear the scrum falling" is absurd. That's like saying you did not kill the child, you just used her as a shield, they are the ones who shot her.

You were not just "at the edge" you repeatedly used the edge and cliffside as cover. Which is fine in some incidences and for some goals. But as far as a strategy for running, it will always end in the scrum falling and the cliff-runner re-spawning.

The point is this:
If you are aware that 99.99% of the time running the edge leads to the the scrum falling at the same time you die, thus re-spawning at the same time as the scrum. Then you may as well be diving, because the end result is the same.

I know, I know, what if it was an accident? I am talking about as a strategy not a specific scenario.

MAX

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 6:59:50 PM

Good point MAX. I try my best not to fall of the side when I'm running close to it and so far I haven't useing this strategy and the only reason I run on the edge is because I'm smoking and the goal is crowded like crazy, I dunno if this changes the situation but the scrum doesn't always fall it my get stuck right where I died or on a cliff below so it only works maybe 3/4 of the time. For now on I'll only do it on extreme moments and if I have no other choice.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 7:08:39 PM

I'll hit the edge if the crowd is forcing me that way, which can happen in legitimate play. But I do try to push it back up over the edge so that my death doesn't drop the flag.

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 7:14:53 PM

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