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I hear the following complaints on a daily basis!

Attacking and killing teammates,

Abusive and inappropriate Language

Battlemoding other players in a scrum server

Playing "keep away" with the scrum then cliff diving

Stalking and Hunting people down just to ruin their fun!

These are all things that make this game suck! There are certain people who are bent on ruining the game for everyone else. I believe that Bravetree has a fiduciary responsibility to it's customers (us) to implement security measure to prevent this sort of thing from happening! Something must be done about this!

I think the best and only solution to this problem would be for bravetree to grant a select few the ability to mute, and boot players from any given server.

BM, Scrum, TS, TBM, CTF, whatever...

To avoid abuse, this administrative power would only be accessible by the players selected name. For example, if I was an administrator, I would NOT be able to mute or boot players under any other name or alias aside from SteAlth, or SteAlth {ES}.

If it's determined that an administrator is abusing his or her abilities and is muting / booting other players without justified cause, Bravetree will reserve the right to strip that administrator of his administrating abilities.

Here's how it would work, If someone is out of line or disrupting a game, the administrator would first warn the person. If they continue to cause problems, the administrator will then exercise his ability to mute or boot the player, based on the nature and severity of the players disruption.

Every time you go online, the IP Address is recorded in the TT's.exe system. The boot feature would have an interface with that system. After a player is booted 3 times, a security lock feature will prevent the player from going online again for at least a 24 hour period. This is punishment for getting out of line.

Anyone who hosts his or her own server will have the administrative powers for that server. But only the selected few will have administrative powers in the other servers.

@ BraveTree, That's my idea, what do you think? Is it doable?

Monday, May 17, 2004 at 11:02:14 PM

Well, if this idea is accepted by Brave Tree, then I just want to let u gus know I'm still one of the few respectable players in this game, and I'd be honored to have admin power (and the promise to not abuse it)

Cadc (SA) (Leader)

**..::I am thoroughly... amused:::..**

Monday, May 17, 2004 at 11:21:58 PM
il

Well, as far as the issue goes, I think it is a great idea. Every human, however, is capable of holding a grudge, we would have to make sure to screen VERY carefully. while Cad is on the subject, I too think I would make a good admin. I am High up in two of the biggest armies, and have many friends. My only enemies are NORMALLY the bad guys like anonygas, but that does not matter, 'cause an admin only boots when neccisary. All MY issues aside, if it can be done--so be it.

I suggest emailing this to support@bravetree.com as well as posting here.

Monday, May 17, 2004 at 11:27:35 PM

When is this promissed 1.2 coming out? I think they need to do this more than anything IMO.

EDIT after reading fil's post, I dont think that appointed admins that are always admins would work to well, I say they do it like orbz, the admin leaves, and then another person is appointed admin, but on your servers you can have a saved admin pass, that you could type in "/admin.thinktanks" /admin tells your server that you want to become an admin, and then.thinktanks would be your servers administrative password. If it matches the password that you have set, then you become the admin, if it doesnt then.....you wont be lol.

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Monday, May 17, 2004 at 11:27:57 PM

@ Micheal:

How would the person know the pass? You wold have to have tolled him before. You wouldn't have to do this if there was a "wisper" feature. Where only the person you put in would see what you said. Kinda like the ignore script. Except oppiset. (this could work hey who made the ignore script?)

I personly feel the admine should allways be the person runnning the room. Unless it's a dectated server and that person isn't there. If that was the case then what I said abouve could be used to only tell a certan person the pass. Or if the person doesn't tell any one the pass then after 30 seconds there would be a vote on who it would be.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 12:33:34 AM

Sorry to sound harsh, but really.... Just play the game.

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 12:42:46 AM

@Bomber

 

.....but on your servers you can have a saved admin pass....

 

 

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 12:52:21 AM

This topic has been repeated and exhausted on several other threads. Bravetree doesnt have the resources to implement any of this at the current time...last I heard 1.2 isnt going to address any of this.

B

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 12:55:48 AM

@ Micheal

I still don't get it. So you have a pass saved so when a person typs one in and its the same one they're the admine, but how did they know that was the saved pass? . You would still have to tell someone the pass a head of time so no one in the room heres it. That is why we need a "wisper" feature. If no one in the room knew the pass and it was dectated then you would still need to vote or do something els.

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 1:28:03 AM

@ All,

Has anyone ever thought about the following possibility??? Maybe What is being said in the servers is being misunderstood, I mean the way some of you express yourself, alot misinterpretation could be read into some your comments, I mean there are others who make up their own language. I think what is best needed here is a translator .

LaurynTM

Dislcaimer:- My comments are meant to be taken in tongue in cheek. If you thought otherwise then it might be a good time to get out of the house, and take a nice walk in the park, or if you feel really energetic, then there is psychiatric help further down the road.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 1:56:38 AM

I don't know if I'd want to be an administrator... If asked, I'd accept... But I think the following would be much more qualified than I.

-Z-

Burnsey

Dan Mac

Azezel

Sluggy

56k LagMan

LC50

Hugobrain

Cadc

I don't know about Battlemode, but for Scrum, I think they are the most fair and integritive people for the job.

@ the people of BraveTree, what do you think of my idea? Is it doable? If not, why? If so, why not?

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 2:12:10 AM

Baba and Tank Dork too

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 2:12:43 AM

For battlemode I would say Tank0r, LC50, Leapord, maybe me, Illusion, Willow, me (its a screnname, im not referring myself twice lol), wow, there are alot of good BMers.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 2:22:44 AM

I disagree with you on Tank0r... He went undercover and reeked a lot of havoc using the alias StinkyARMY! I don't think he has the integrity to be an administrator. Leopard and Willow... Definately! But NOT Tank0r...

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 2:50:34 AM

It should be up to more than just one person, it just be 60-70 % of the players in the game to vote the idiots off the game, I dont like it when people just play to ruin games, but if I dont like the person who to stop me from booting him from the game, a voting system would keep it from being bias...

 

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 3:27:08 AM

@ All,

While the idea is good, you would need people like myself to be an "administrator" as when I tend to play Sydney Time, most of you aren't there. It's not until early hours here that LC50, and the rest of them are online. Also, if this idea ever takes off the ground, you would need to make sure that there was an adequate representation from each of the continents around the world.

LaurynTM

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 3:32:13 AM

 

 

The people of BraveTree, what do you think of my idea? Is it doable? If not, why? If so, why not?

 

Well, first, it tkaes resources we don't currently have to devote to it. Second, we would then have something else to manage (adminning the admins] third, and this is a personal opinion, it solves some problems and creates a whole slew of others, our cheif concern being the vote-kicking of demos (which are the people who end up buying the game, and in doing so, put food on the table), or, a bunch of demos vote-kicking good players for 'cheating'.

We are in the process of working on back end server technology for our next games that we plan to eventually roll into thinktanks that will have you are asking for (and more). It is a big task, and it will take a while to get it all done, in place and tested. Once it is working, we will get it in there. Patience. We are a very very small company, and we can't possibly do everything that everyone is asking right now. Eventually we will. If we end up losing people along the way, as unfortunate as it is, this is the way it is. We have not forgotten or abandoned thinktanks... We just need to be careful with where we are spending our resources so that we can stay around and extend the game. We are not going to be doing anyone any favors buy throwing all of our resources at thinktanks, and closing up shop if we run out of $$$$.

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 3:56:44 AM

Thanks for responding joe....

We cant expect all the goodies that the major game vendors produce from a small budget game...

B

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 6:48:53 AM

Joe, Thank you so much for your prompt reply. We all appreciate it very much :)

 

We are in the process of working on back end server technology for our next games that we plan to eventually roll into thinktanks that will have you are asking for (and more).

 

Yea! WOOT WOOT! You hear that you hate mongrels! YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED! XD HAHAHAHAAA! I can't wait XD

 

Well, first, it takes resources we don't currently have to devote to it.

 

How much are we talking here? $4 or $5K? This will increase the fun of the game which will ultimately increase sales! I don't think BraveTree can afford NOT to implement a security system of this sort.

Heres a suggestion that I'm sure will be contraversal. Why don't you guys charge $20 a year... Make it a "Membership Fee", instead of a "Game Purchase". I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, sense it's for the greater good of the comunity. And if they do, so what... They'll get over it ;)

 

Second, we would then have something else to manage (adminning the admins)

 

Admins would manage themselves... If someone starts abusing their admin powers, the other admins would be able to report that to you. All you would have to do is take away their admin abilities.

 

Our chief concern being the vote-kicking of demos (which are the people who end up buying the game, and in doing so, put food on the table), or, a bunch of demos vote-kicking good players for 'cheating'.

 

I disagree with the vote-kick idea. Only vote kicking would be amongst the admins, and that would only be to determine if another admin should have their abilities stripped or not. Again, my idea was to give certain people the ability to mute and boot other players from any given server. They're just there to play their game and have fun along with everyone else... But if someone starts getting out of line, they will have the ability to boot that person from the server.

Thanks again Joe! I'm glad to hear that BraveTree has some plans in the works. I can't wait for the next version to come out =)

SteAlth {ES}

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 5:08:12 PM

@All,

If you have ever played in this current season of team battle league ,you have seen a code of conduct rules that we enforce quite stringently, it would be nice if we could have the power to kick/ban players/team killers in this game similar to how myself and LC50 run the league. With that said I do try to monitor the server I run when I am around to get rid of the miscreants. If there is the possibility of having this as an extra feature that one can purchase or subscribe to on a yearly basis, I will glady pony up said funds.

Leopard

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 7:07:24 PM

@ Bomber

Geez learn to read man, I said a set password FOR YOUR SERVER THAT YOU KNOW .

Do you get what im saying now?

EDIT: And on the homelan/shockwave servers you can have a voted admin/automaticaly picked admin to do the deed.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 7:11:59 PM

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