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Create an e-annoyance, go to jail

By Declan McCullagh
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance%2C+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html

Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.

It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess.

This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.

"The use of the word 'annoy' is particularly problematic," says Marv Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "What's annoying to one person may not be annoying to someone else."
It's illegal to annoy

A new federal law states that when you annoy someone on the Internet, you must disclose your identity. Here's the relevant language.

"Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... Without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy."

To grease the rails for this idea, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, and the section's other sponsors slipped it into an unrelated, must-pass bill to fund the Department of Justice. The plan: to make it politically infeasible for politicians to oppose the measure.

The tactic worked. The bill cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote, and the Senate unanimously approved it Dec. 16.

There's an interesting side note. An earlier version that the House approved in September had radically different wording. It was reasonable by comparison, and criminalized only using an "interactive computer service" to cause someone "substantial emotional harm."

That kind of prohibition might make sense. But why should merely annoying someone be illegal?

There are perfectly legitimate reasons to set up a Web site or write something incendiary without telling everyone exactly who you are.

Think about it: A woman fired by a manager who demanded sexual favors wants to blog about it without divulging her full name. An aspiring pundit hopes to set up the next Suck.com. A frustrated citizen wants to send e-mail describing corruption in local government without worrying about reprisals.

In each of those three cases, someone's probably going to be annoyed. That's enough to make the action a crime. (The Justice Department won't file charges in every case, of course, but trusting prosecutorial discretion is hardly reassuring.)

Clinton Fein, a San Francisco resident who runs the Annoy.com site, says a feature permitting visitors to send obnoxious and profane postcards through e-mail could be imperiled.

"Who decides what's annoying? That's the ultimate question," Fein said. He added: "If you send an annoying message via the United States Post Office, do you have to reveal your identity?"

Fein once sued to overturn part of the Communications Decency Act that outlawed transmitting indecent material "with intent to annoy." But the courts ruled the law applied only to obscene material, so Annoy.com didn't have to worry.

"I'm certainly not going to close the site down," Fein said on Friday. "I would fight it on First Amendment grounds."

He's right. Our esteemed politicians can't seem to grasp this simple point, but the First Amendment protects our right to write something that annoys someone else.

It even shields our right to do it anonymously. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas defended this principle magnificently in a 1995 case involving an Ohio woman who was punished for distributing anonymous political pamphlets.

If President Bush truly believed in the principle of limited government (it is in his official bio), he'd realize that the law he signed cannot be squared with the Constitution he swore to uphold.

And then he'd repeat what President Clinton did a decade ago when he felt compelled to sign a massive telecommunications law. Clinton realized that the section of the law punishing abortion-related material on the Internet was unconstitutional, and he directed the Justice Department not to enforce it.

Bush has the chance to show his respect for what he calls Americans' personal freedoms. Now we'll see if the president rises to the occasion.

 

 

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 6:57:22 PM
LGM

Oh brother... Another stupid and unenforceable law... Oops, I hope I didn't annoy you.

My real name is and I live at in , , 13036

Little, but some of the above info was or is true. If this annoys you, I apologize very weakly.

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 7:28:34 PM

In related news, if the DA does his job properly, 44 won't be posting again in the next 4-6 years.

 

 

 

 

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 7:29:37 PM

Does this mean an end to all junk mail?

Anyway, my plan is to officially change my name to "Rabban". Problem solved! ;)

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 8:27:46 PM

It would seem the wording was an attept at banning spam email. But, I doubt that will get very far, since the wording, "with intent to" would make it easy to weasle out of. "My intent was not to annoy, but rather to sell meds at discount prices. If anyone was annoyed at my solicitation, that was certainly not my intention."

Internet trolls who go out looking to get a rise out of people, would be in more danger than spammers.

 

 

 

 

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 8:48:18 PM

I'll talk to Bush. Now that I'm vying for PTT leadership, he's listening.

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 9:22:53 PM

Dang, just when I was going to use TankBiscuitGirl to annoy fo fo... :(

What about Picts! Can picts of the hairless spots of my butt be considered annoying? Cause that's all you're going to see of me in Psycho X!

{WalMart free for over 24 months!}

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 11:16:46 PM

Congrats on your 44th thread fo fo :)

 

I love my randylion

 

Monday, January 09, 2006 at 11:49:32 PM

Now THAT is messed-up. Right up there with the Sherman Antitrust Act. SO prone to misuse it's not funny...
What a shame, would've been a nice laugh if it was.
BUCK FUSH!!!
My name is ********* *********, I live at *********,**,*****.

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 1:14:23 AM

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Not even funny.
So now the people who posted on the "Thanks <insert political party here>" threads could get sued.
How stupid is that? We have a right to be "annoying," just as we have a right to free speech.

 

Think about it: A woman fired by a manager who demanded sexual favors wants to blog about it without divulging her full name. An aspiring pundit hopes to set up the next Suck.com. A frustrated citizen wants to send e-mail describing corruption in local government without worrying about reprisals.

In each of those three cases, someone's probably going to be annoyed. That's enough to make the action a crime. (The Justice Department won't file charges in every case, of course, but trusting prosecutorial discretion is hardly reassuring.)

 


Iraq, the environment, and now this...
THREE STRIKES YOU'RE OUT BUDDY!!!!
If this was annoying, I apologize. My name & address are ****** ******, **** ********** **, *******, ** *****

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 1:51:32 AM

^^^^^ GO hugo!! What was that thread with the pic of the forums after you took over?
hmm, so according to this law I can spam and flame if I legally change my name to PLAYER36? Oh wait, I wonder if I will have to add al the clans too :P

Sorry to people who hate smilies, if that :P annoyed you. Feel free to sue me.

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 3:06:09 AM

Well then we should go and get Kroda

Pray to GOD for him to reveal himself to you.

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 5:54:39 PM
LGM

Wow. That's truly one of the most ridiculous news stories I've ever seen. Really.

(anyone got a picture of my house yet? I could use some easy cash...)

Friday, January 13, 2006 at 3:39:48 PM


...and LGM sits around in a rusted wheelchair. :)

Friday, January 13, 2006 at 3:49:02 PM

Rabban, that is just to funny, so this means the next person who says bad things about my skins are in for a court fight. Lol omg, Only men would go this far, and from a romance site to boot. HEHEHEHEHE Wonder if they were romanticly deprived from the female chatters and had nothing better to do but talk to themselves. Why would men go to a romance site and have a 5 year chatting experiance with other men? As LoneWolf said in another thread, Makes me go hummmmm....I'm laughing so hard I'm gonna pee..

 

Friday, January 13, 2006 at 8:34:54 PM

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