I am curious, are there any special little ditties that you sing or sling Gods way on Fathers Day?

Katherine

Heh, as a christian not in particualr. I try to thank him every day, cause he's the superest papa I could ever have. (This is from someone whoes bio-dad left when he was four.)

Ah sweet Katherine, how I've missed thee. :)

I guess my question is, did you ever do such things when you were in the flock? ;)

It's a funny thing, but I haven't celebrated my heavenly Father any extra on Father's Day than I have the other 52 Sundays or 365 days in a year. It's an interesting point, but somehow I don't think a lot of C's really think about God in such an intimate way in that he's our personal Father. Sure, we should and we're even encouraged to cry out, "Daddy, Daddy" (Gal 4:6), but sometimes it's difficult to think about him like that. We're so used to him being the FATHER OF THE UNIVERSE _{cue: thunder and lightening} that it's easy to forget the delicate, gentle side of relating to him and the personal love he has for us.

Thanks for helping me realize this. Guess I'll have to do something special after all. :)

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I bet he'd appreciate some truly unique gesture. He's probably got thousands of closets full of old ties. ;)

I really wouldnt understand why if you did.

Fathers day is just a commercialised event is there anything in the scriptures which supports such a day? Or is it just another day created by marketting men to sell greetings cards and give a small boost to retail sales. I've certainly never really bothered with it

You're right, -z-. Father's Day is a commercial invention (as far as I know). But that never stopped me from giving my dad a little extra attention and trying to make him feel extra special. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a day set aside to honor and love our fathers.

And I don't think there's any "Thou shalt have a Father's Day and keep it holy" kind of directive in the B-I-b-l-e, but we are told to be excellent to them, just like we should be to our moms, wives, children and everyone else on the planet.

I'll probably just say an extra little "Love ya, Dad" to God as well.

-z-,

Mostly I am with you about many of the holidays... Just a tool used by marketing to sell more cards-n-stuff.

The one that gets me completely inflamed are the diamond commercials around femme-holidays... "Just show her how much you care with a diamond" AAAARRRGGGHHHHH... That is the most belittling perspective and diminishes what little true sentiment there is for such holidays.

Most of the true sentiment in the holidays have been tarnished or completely wiped away by marketing. The commercialization of holidays is really sad.

Setting all of that aside, quit being such a curmudgeon Z :)

Mothers Day and Fathers Day can be very VERY sentimental and sweet. It is all what you make of it. No law says you have to give in to the commercialized version.

I LOVE mothers day more than ever. I have the same rule that my mother had with me, (not that they are old enough yet, but) my kids are not allowed to BUY me anything for mothers day, they can only MAKE me a mothers day present. I get spoiled on mothers day by my six year old. He doesn't want me to do anything but relax as he tries to take care of the house and his little brother. My kids get SO excited about mothers day because they have been making things for me at school and they can't wait to give it to me. It is really adorable.

Yes, a curmudgeon could argue that we should always show respect for our moms and dads and we don't need special days for them.... But you could say the same thing about any hard working employee that gets paid well during the year, no need for a cash bonus at the end of the year.

Setting aside the commercialized aspect, moms and pops days are sweet, fun, and harmless.

Katherine the mother.

I always washed my Dad's car inside and out for Father's day. Not sure what I'd do for God. Cleaning up the Earth sounds like a bit much.

(Yah, I'm keeping it light-hearted this round. ;) )

- BombJames Bomb

Getting back to bumper stickers, which may or may not relate here, I saw this one the other day, "Question Gender".

Not really quite sure how you can question gender, maybe gender-related language, or gene anamolies, just thought that was an odd one.

Maybe the big cheese should get a little "what-what" on Mother's Day, Grandparents Day, Executive assistants day, Computer Geek day, teachers day, arbor day, making stupid unrelated statements day, oh wait that's everyday for me.

Peace out,

Happy Father's Day Y'all! XD

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Yeah TG, aren't those "diamonds are forever" commercials and ads incredibly annoying? All they do is perpetuate the stereotype that women don't care about the man they're with as long as they get gold and diamonds from them. As if that even means anything at all. I'm not against giving someone diamonds, but there has to be some kind of meaning behind it for me. A special occasion or something.

Yes, holidays have been totally bastardized by commercialism. It's sad, but it's too far gone to do much about it now. I know with my parents, they don't care if they get anything on Mother's Day/Father's Day. They mostly just want me to be with them on that day. To be present and spend time with them. Gifts are fine, as long as they don't replace the true sentiment of honoring your mother and father.

@JB- come on! You and I together, we'll clean up the planet. Should only take a few centuries. ;)

@TG

Right on, sista. I especially agree about the diamonds! Ever since I watched a special expose on diamonds and the Cecil Rhodes and his De Beers mining company that pretty much monopolizes the entire industry, I've harbored a great disdain towards the merchants who rip us all off. In short, the diamond mines produce such a high volume of diamonds that the cost per ounce would be a fraction of what it is now if they were actually released! In an incredibly greedy move, Cecil Rhodes made the decision to stock pile all of his diamonds in order to jack up the prices!

It was a simple but devious plan that has worked for decades! The law of supply and demand in full effect! It would make your stomach turn if you knew the whole ugly truth! Because the whole saler owns most of the product (overseas I might add, so it cannot be regulated), they can do whatever they want.

Go to this website, The DeBeers Conspiracy to read the full hideous story!

So think of that the next time you go buy some diamonds! Reminds me of the oil industry, huh?

Anyway, I think that the Parents' Days are just made to realize what we put them through, just put ourselves into our shoes. Also, Easter, Hannukah (hope I spelled it right), Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc. Are only taken advantage of...

That is true in many cases...last night I went to the IL horse fair to watch some friends show their horses...personally I dont give a desert rat's arse about showing horses...i was there because the female scenery is UNBELIEVABLE. All the guys that show are among the wealthiest in the country. Their wives/girlfriends are all not much older than I am. They are DRIPPING with diamonds....INSANE amount of money spent there...The horse that won the class my friends were in is owned by the president of Firestone...the horse was a $700,000 saddlebred (puts it in perspective)

While I dont think most women are just after money I do think that there are a good many that are...

The whole debeers thing doesnt suprise me...after working in 2 of the most greedy companies in the world I already know about the crap these companies pull

B

@TG:

I agree, I think 'making' something is perfect. I just get sick and tired of all the commercialisation of these 'special days'. When I was a kid, there was far far less commericalisation of holidays such as Christmas, our typical santa stockings would be filled with cheap nickel and dime store stuff and it was in many ways far more useful and appreciated than the kinds of things most kids seem to expect these days.

My dad never believed in 'fathers day' etc and for mothers day, (if my mother was any where near my area) I would probably treat her to lunch somewhere, but thats about as far I'll go. There are enough 'special' days in the year which have meaning to people: birthdays, anniversaries etc and I just feel that introducing all these other days just waters everything down or rather - tries to elevate the others to a degree that most just cant afford.

And what about all those other stupid days that seem to exist (well here in the UK at least), 'National sandwich day' 'national no smoking day' 'national fish and chips day' 'national pick your nose and flick it day'... Ok, so none of them are that commercialised, but I fear that they will be at some point.

We don't have that here in the States, though I knew some kids back in my elementary school days that would've enjoyed that day quite a bit. %)

So, the end analysis for the holy rollers here is that God does not get an extra thanks, or a popsicle-stick framed picture, or an oven-fired "coffee cup-like lump of clay", or a pen-holder made of clothes clips, etc. On Fathers Day because it is not a religious holiday.

I realize that I am an "outsider" and I may be oversimplifying the relationship to God.... But I would have imagined that Fathers Day would be a special day of worship for the big guy.

Katherine

Fathers day is a special day of worship. I just like to extend it to the other 364 days.

But I did have some of the best worship of my life this week while I was on a mission trip. People I'd never expect it from, big macho guys, flat on their face crying. And even when I doubted I could get to that point I ended up the same.

So my youth group and I got a lot of work done both physically and spiritually. So, I guess that could be a father's day thing.

Its fun to get away from the bible belt. Here, most people are afraid to admit they are not a Christain