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I just downloaded the entire OSU v Michigan game sans commercials for only a 1.99. Consider me a big fat pig in some wet slimey mud. :)

Monday, November 20, 2006 at 7:30:51 PM

Any chance the PSU-OSU game from 2005 would still be around?

Monday, November 20, 2006 at 7:38:50 PM

 

 

I Love I-Tunes

 

Hell, who doesnt? :P

Monday, November 20, 2006 at 7:40:00 PM

Player...

It may be...i only discovered tonight that college football games were available. You may want to check it out

Monday, November 20, 2006 at 10:14:17 PM

I wuv it

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 4:30:05 AM

 

Love em XD

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 4:56:36 AM

 

 

Hell, who doesnt?

 

I for one, do not!

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 6:53:58 AM

^ hater

 

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 7:03:20 AM

^ Damn right!

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 7:06:46 AM
LGM

^ does not compute with fruit!

ITunes is, however, fabulous. They've managed to put together an amazing package, and keep improving it. I wouldn't have expected a music player/ripping package to become such a multimedia giant.

It just keeps getting bigger and bigger, better and better... When will it end!?

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 7:28:19 AM

I love Free-Tunes!

I see no point in paying mp3's, legal or illegal, if you get nothing physical in your hands!

You don't have to let go of one rope before grabbing the other. But you'll have to let go of one if you want to swing forward.

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 8:16:51 AM

Yes let's continue to praise apple because we're fanboys!

And I continue to piss people off. ;)

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 8:55:02 AM

Get Some, I've always considered you to be a fat pig in slimey mud.

 

Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to be on my toes.

Invite a retard to a picnic and you'd better expect to get drool in the potato salad.

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 9:40:19 AM

Racer:
You love iTunes, you just don't see it in your anger against apple and macintosh :)

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 1:36:15 PM

I for one think itunes is overated...just download ur CD's on to your ipod or mp3 player, its a lot easier and you don't have to spend as much money.

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 2:35:21 PM

@ rogue

lol...thx. :)

@ racer

Although I-tunes is made by apple I know plenty of pc users that have it too. This doesnt have anything to do with the mac vs pc debate. Im just pleased as punch that I can get access to certain media in a way that I couldnt before.

I'm trying my best to hold off on buying the Heroes episodes...i think I'd rather own the box set. But its getting harder and harder to resist!!! I just cant get enough of that show...and I-tunes keeps dangling the episodes in my face every time I get on it for a mere 1.99 per episode!!!

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 6:27:13 PM

Personally, I don't like or use itunes because I find it slow and bloated. And I, personally, do not need the music store and do not like the heavily DRMed music they sell. That's all. For me, it's a matter of personal preference.

If you want the store and don't mind them restricting your freedom, then go ahead and use it. I'll stick with WinAmp and AmaroK for now. If you find itunes good for you, then I'm happy that you're happy.

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 10:07:58 PM

Worth visiting http://tvlinks.voodeedoo.org/

You don't have to let go of one rope before grabbing the other. But you'll have to let go of one if you want to swing forward.

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 2:53:40 AM

 

 

It just keeps getting bigger and bigger, better and better... When will it end!?

 


for me it ended when I tried to transfer music files from my mac to my pda. Apple protects its music files so that THEY ACTUALLY OWN THE MUSIC YOU THINK YOU OWN. It comes in an AAC protected format, not mp3 or any other format that's easily copied. They do this to protect the record companies. And you thought that their first priority was to serve their custormers? Forget about it. Apple is turning into an evil empire. It would be like if you bought a CD from SONY that would only allow you to play the CD in a sony CD player.

There is software out there that will re-record the protected aac music files and convert them to mp3 etc., but itunes constantly updates so that it can throw wrenches into the plans of those who think you should be able to actually own what you pay for.

Itunes: a great way to lease your music.

For those of you who haven't updated to itunes 6., check out a free program called Jhymm.

 

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 6:55:53 AM

^ Dude you are truly delusional, almost as bad as Racer.

Step one: Burn an audio CD (AIFF) of your "DRM protected AAC" iTunes song using iTunes.

Step two: Do the same things with your burned disc of AIFF format music that you would with any other CD. (geesh)

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 8:35:17 AM

^ yeah...pretty much.

I dont even mind not "owning" the music. As a photographer I am the sole owner of the images I produce even when someone pays me to produce them. Its called intellectual property rights and I fully understand the musicians position on this issue. This is of course if you assume the musicians got a fair deal from their record company...otherwise yes, it is the big evil corporation screwing us over.

Bottom line is I save money by not having to shell out 15$ to buy an album that I'll only like 2 songs on, I continue to support the bands I like so that they can continue to produce music, and I get to do all the things that I wanted to do before like make mixes I can play in my car/dvd/cd player. I might be the last person on earth not to have an ipod/mp3 player but I just havent had a need for one.

The gravy? OSU vs Michigan games that I now can watch whenever I want commercial free. Didnt really have that option before and I tunes just made it very convenient.

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 11:46:35 AM

BC: I'm delusional? Why? Because I object to having to convert my purchases from AAC to CD and then back to MP3? Besides, your solution is less practical considering the 500 CDs I'd have to burn. I started with itunes to get away from CDs in the first place. Its more practical for me to purchase software that will convert my entire library to mp3.

Why should I have to do this process? I've paid for the music, and I've spared itunes the costs of packaging and distributing the music.

Bottom line: I bought the music, I should own it. Itunes could code the music into a universal unprotected format if they chose to. Instead, they choose to protect the record industry.

 

 

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 12:31:28 PM

^

 

The 500 CDs I'd have to burn

 


Ever heard of CDRWs? Or one of those applications you spoke of? Could it not be that Apple struck the best deal possible with the record industry? What is your alternative, taking a tape recorder to live shows?

How's it feel to be man-handled? :P

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 12:41:19 PM

Also bc: "The CD audio still bears the artifacts of compression, so converting it back into a lossy format such as MP3 may aggravate the sound artifacts of encoding "

Apparently I'm not the only "delusional" being out there :

 

Northern California Judge Gives Green Light to Monopolization Suit Against Apple

With all the hoopla of the video iPod and speculation that Apple was going to release a media center-style PC and switch to Intel chips, it seems that the media last September inadvertently – or knowingly – forgot to post the news (via Tera Patricks) that Judge James Ware, of the U.S. District Court of Northern California, has found the plaintiff, Thomas Slattery, as having "met all requirements for asserting [Apple's iTunes + iPod] tying claim... Noting that the complaint alleges Apple has an 80 percent share of the market for legal digital music files and more than 90 percent of the market for portable hard-drive digital music players." Moreover, Judge Ware has given the green light to Slattery to proceed with his monopolization claim under the federal Sherman Antitrust Act.

As some of you know we've been having some thoughtful discussions on Apple, iPod, and its DRM in the forums (here and here), but I don't think any of us knew that the numbers were as high as the judge found the evidence to be.so of interest was that Judge Ware specifically rejected Apple's argument that tying doesn't apply since consumers can buy iTunes music for playback on their computers without having to own an iPod. sure some will say that this is not a monopoly, but ask yourself: What other online music services, other than the iTunes Music Store, offers Apple's Fairplay DRM wrapped music for you to purchase for your iPod? That's right, exactly zero. So unless you own a physical CD and have ripped the tracks to MP3 or AAC, there's no other way to add music to the device other than by way of iTunes. (OK, there are two non-traditional exceptions: 1) Services like eMusic that sell DRM-free MP3s, and 2) Real's Harmony software that can convert their copy protected music to a compatible format for the iPod – Note that Apple threatened Real with a lawsuit for providing this feature.)

 


http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2095/northern_california_judge

Wikipedia has an interesting entry on the concept of fair play with itunes, and includes info from circumnavigating itunes encryption.

Bottom line: I tunes is a pretty great service. Like I said, I have purchased around 500 albums from them. I do however greatly resent their efforts at restricting you to playing the music you purchased on their program.

 

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 12:46:24 PM

Man-handled! I'll let you know when it happens, ya nelly. I know now how it feels to get felt-up on line, thank you very much.

Ya, I have heard of CDRW, but I'm not into the tedious process of converting my music that way. I got real shit to do. Ima lay down 20$ for some fair play software. I figure I can afford it with all the money itunes has saved me :).

My titties aren't all twisted over the issue. But this kinda thing just sticks in mah craw.

 

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 12:58:46 PM

ITunes rocks. I could probably d the same thing with amaroK , the Linux equivalent, but thanks to it, I recently bought a song, moved it to a certain playlist, and synced it with my iPod in less than 2 minutes. Major time-saving.
EDIT:

 

Note that Apple threatened Real with a lawsuit for providing this feature.

 


Yeah, I wondered how Real could get away with that when I fired it up and noticed all my iTunes songs on there...

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 1:06:51 PM

I have a few complaints about iTunes, especially that it's bloated, but I haven't found a good alternative. Downloading entire football games is a pretty cool feature IMO.

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 1:18:16 PM

@ stink f.
No, I'd characterize that lawsuit as delusional and completely without merit by definition. There is no such thing as a natural (without government grant) monopoly. The Sherman Antitrust Act is a sham.

To characterize Apple as "turning into an evil empire" in this context is not warranted. I suspect the DRM is due to record company stipulations.

It's true that converting between highly compressed formats degrades the sound quality, but does anybody really notice? There was a lot of press given to the difference in sound quality of vinyl vs CD initially, but other factors seem to be more important to the consumer.

I hope you are making redundant backups of all those albums.
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My favorite iTunes feature is video without commercials. I hate genital herpes commercials. I dream of the day I can get all of my video "on demand" without commercials. I have a hard time believing that removing commercials would increase the cost beyond what I'd be willing to pay. You just know that one or both of those people in that commercial are using the medication to conceal the affliction.

Oh, and I like all that old Pink Floyd that you can't get any other way. 8o

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 4:48:52 PM

Wow a whole thread about itunes how boring
unless
some one can play jibbs
changhang low

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 4:58:27 PM

 

 

The songs open right up in iTunes

 


Of course they do, no DRM. But try opening songs you bought from iTunes in another player and you'll have problems.

Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 5:06:29 AM

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And plus, there's Audacity , a GNU/GPLed sound recorder that you can use to rip songs from iTunes and save them as DRM-free Oggs or MP3s.

Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 9:15:27 AM

Bacically, I get all my movies and other stuff besides music from iTunes. Then, I play it and stuff on there. Grantit, somtimes I have to buy a song or two, but them I just record it or burn it on a CD. I still love the radio functions and other features it has, though.

Pardon my rudeness, I cannot abide useless people.

Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 10:43:26 AM

I love LimeWire.


I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.

Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 9:19:48 PM

Limewire is terrible. You type something like "hats" and 20 pornos pop up. *shivers*

 

I love my randylion

 

Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 9:43:11 PM

^ never try downloading the movie "free willy" *shudder*

 

Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 7:49:28 AM

LimeWire?

BitTorrent is where it's at. :P

Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 3:56:53 PM

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