Does anyone feel afraid of Iran, I mean, they're moveing forward on they're Uranium enrichment program and I thought to myself, lets get some B2 bombers over there and nuke those S.O.B.'s before they do that to us, and maybe some F-117 Stealth Fighters to drop some smart bombs, and a few A-10 Warhogs to drop some cluster bombs, personily I think they're secretly gonna make Nuclear ICBM's to launch at the U.S.A., and this is gonna be a repeat of what happened in North Korea dureing President Clinton's Term in office, while he was gettin head, the North Korean's were makeing Nukes and ICBM's(Inter Continental Balistic Missiles),and IRBM's(Intermediet Range Balistic Missiles) and now they have em and launching nukes into the Japenease Sea's, and instead of Iran useing sea's as Testing Range's they'll use the U.S.A. As a test target, and then it'll be World War Three, and eventually the end of the world as we know it, and this is all because of that dumba$$ in theWhite House not Takeing any action at all, everyone in my family hates President Bush's guts just because he doesnt take any appropriot action against Iran or North Korea. 8( :'(

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Wow that was hard to read.

I wrote a Noob to English dictionary... Allow me to translate....

Hmmm.... So.....
Iran's working on their nukes, they might fire at the wonderful ol' USA, and it's all Bush's fault.
So to remedy Bush's mistakes.... MORE WAR! NUKE 'EM ALL!
Genius... I think we have a future president on our hands...

I always said we should destroy and invade whoever seems to threatened America. ;)

They wont attack USA... They are closer to Israel.

Gee uh thx for the nice comments cept wacky, my parents think I was a war monger in another life

Last edited: Monday, November 20, 2006 at 12:45:39 AM

We should be focused on korea than
iran...they already have nukes.

And they hate us to boot.

Btw, koreans started their nuke program way
before cliton was in office.

Ah, another thread that gives no thought to what it says. Here is your thought proccess in a nutshell:

Yeah, something wrong with that there. And personally, Iran won't attack us. Like jacob said, they are closer to Isreal than USA, and I am pretty sure the issys are able to handle themselves, with the whole being the second best military in world and such. Personally, I think Georgy has made it so that they won't attack us instantly by invading iraq (Warning: tactical thought ahead):

Why the G.B. Senior not take out saddam? Simple: saddam was the only thing holding iran at bay. Now, the second the US leaves Iraq, Iran will move in. Now now, I have heard the "so we don;t leave iraq and just nuke Iran, right?"...No. You see, there is this thing called fallout that would infect all the soldiers in Iraq, and, while sufficiently killing Iran, will pretty much radiate a fourth of asia. Oops.

So, in conclusion, our tactical leader suck, but I am very happy that Aircaft up there is not leading it, cause we would all probably be dead right now. Also, how old are you to be making decisions of nuking other countries. Unless you are AT LEAST 25, I am going to say you have no real Tactical Warhead Experience. Hell, even I wouldn't know how to deploy nukes.

Sorry for the harsh post. Just got done watching an ep of the colbert report. Good show...

Vash, your Clinton guilt is cracking me up!
He helped North Korea with nukes more than anybody.
He also handed China the know how to become THE world superpower.
Get back to class... XD

Psh... Republicans... ;)

LMAO! Lol thx for the uh, somewhat nice comments

Hey proud your right about nukeing em but....lets give those Iraqi's and Irani's some nuclear winter, they want some snow too you know B) with radiation of course

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Im 13 but im promilatary minded I know what im talking about, second nuclear bombs only have a blast radius of 50 miles while a radiation spread of 100-150 miles so we'll have to get all of our B2's over there to finish up the job B) %) ;)

Last edited: Monday, November 20, 2006 at 12:45:39 PM

Let's not get carried away here...

My opinion from the beginning is that the U.S. Should be finding ways to defend America from attacks instead of butting their heads in on other countries nuclear tests. Even now, the U.S. Hasn't done very much to defend ourselves from another terrorist attack besides checking people at the airport. We can't even keep people from coming over the border from Mexico! People like to say that it's the governments fault but we can only blame ourselves for being so stupid. We have no plan.

And many Americans I know is always saying stuff like 'Bomb North Korea', but it never seemed to phase them that there are innocent children and families in these places that are infested with terrorism. The U.S. Is blindly bombing places where innocent people are living. We shouldn't be over in North Korea killing innocent people for the things evil people are doing there.

No.... They are building there missile launchers in the neighborhoods so when we do bomb then CNN can report how they bombed a neighborhood... The terrorist are the one who are cause the innocent civilian deaths not Israel/USA.

.........ok?

@^^ I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If some terrorist holds a bunch of innocent people hostage with his/her explosive, then it's America's responsibility to kill the terrorist even if it means killing a whole community of innocent people?? I don't think that's how it should work. Seems like one innocent American citizen is more important than, say, 10 innocent North Koreans. Is that what you're saying?

I can't quite work out whether this anti-aircraft kid is baiting us all, for the fun of watching the ensuing fire.

Or whether he really does believe what he says...

The terrorists should bomb site A. There are less CTs with AWPs there.

@ aircraft: Obviously, you do not know much about nukes...

Up to four things can damage a target:

The Main Blast, that is not 50 miles. Nagasakis was about.2 kilometers long, and the biggest average missle was only a little over four k (only). Gratnit, there are ones that can probably reach a blast diameter of 50 miles, but let me tell you, that would cause a whole lot more damage than you know.

The shockwave, which I think you may have been talking about. A shockwave can travel for a very long distance, and in most cases does more damage than the actualy bomb. It can take out buildings, highways, and with it carries...

Radiation. You estimate of 150 miles is the almost instant efect of the bomb. Aporximently 100 diameter circle around the blast (give or take high/low topogrophy) is infected with radiation in the following ten minutes that the bomb goes off. Even though only about 2 miles around the bomb get hit with a hard amount of gamma, the sourrounding areas goes up a small amount.

Fallout, most people mistake this for radiation. No. Much more lethal, IMHO. This is where the real damage of the nuke is placed. Small radioactive particles, dust, and debris that gets swept into the windstream and can go for thousands of miles. If we were to nuke Iran, or Iraq, the fallout would spread to china, japan, and eventually the US. By the time it got to US soil, it would be considerably less lethal, but still dangerous for pregnant women and small childeren. A larger bomb could effecivly irradiat the entire world. This also pretains to Nuclear winter, which is caused by so much ash in the atmosphere that it actually cools down the earth by clocking out the sun. The area immeadent to it starts to have a combination of radiatove snow and fallout rain down on them. It colapses houses, and infects every living thing (cept cockroaches) in the area.

EMP. This is somthing most people don't realize happens. This is an Electro magentic wave that spreads around that blast area that kills all things electronic. Then, no commmunications or a lot of public railways will be capable of working. The area is just dead.

So, now you see why nuking Iran, Iraq, or anywhere else is just plain dumb. Hell, it could and probably would kill you. Happy birthday, you trigger finger just wiped out the human race.

Iran doesn't have the technology to shoot a nuke half across the world, but I'd be worried if we lived in the eastern hemisphere, those psychos would probably shoot a nucke at themselves in order to increase moral...

Last edited: Monday, November 20, 2006 at 11:40:03 PM

^^ did you get that from the discovery channel, cuz I watched something about that on it and it was really interesting.

Im afraid of what america will scare iran into doing....two more years and the coast will be clear. Im gonna close my eyes til then. Someone tell me when the scary part is over....

^ Just independant research, actually. I like to know these sort of things jsut in case I have to figure somthing out. There is a MacGyver in all of us, y'know ;)

If you guys think the next nuke will come in an ICBM launched from a nation-state, your mindset is in the 60s.

Iran is building a nuke, as Korea does or did, because that's the only sure way mid-powers can defend themselves in the 21st century. When you have a nuke, no one will bother you. If you don't have a nuke, you're at a chanced to be Iraqed .

...and thats about the size of it. I truely believe there is no state nor individual crazy/stupid/fanatical (take your pick) enough to drop a nuke. Well....besides us in 1945...or was it 46. Ask the japanese...they know. Speaking of the japanese, its interesting that they refuse to go nuclear being the only poeple to fully experience the effects of an atomic explosion. Even with N Korea randomly antagonizing them...they still dont see it as an option.

BUT...on the flip side....

If there ever is anyone crazy enough to drop a nuke, then I hope im standing next to them or they drop it on my head. The only thing bad about a nuclear explosion is to survive one. If your dead your dead...and in this case its instantaneous. The real nasty stuff happens to everyone who isnt in the blast radius...particularly those downwind. Keep in mind that air currents can travel accross the globe and when you put something radioactive up in the atmosphere it will take a while to come down....

^ exactly what I said.
^^^ very good point, Hugo. I must admit, I was thinking a bit like that.

Like get some said, you would have to be quite crazy to actually use a nuclear weapon. You could very well be causing the end of humanity.

@kkb are u sure fox news didnt also
report prez cliton had hands on in the
building process?

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I dunno who's winning, but I'm rooting for PGG

My guess: a nuke will blow up somewhere in a mid-size western world city, anytime from now... And the longer it takes the higher the probability. The freaky part: no one will claim it, but the usual groups will clamor/cheers/want revenge/etc. And the media will round up suspects, like usual.

I'm thinking it may very well happen during a G8 or G15 summit, or a Nato Summit, or a WTO summit; they may want to blow several head at once.

It will just be an amazingly stupid boom. I'm thinking 2010 and later... I doubt sooner.

I don't wish it, nor will I be involved (I'm a liberal geek lol), but I cannot see how it will not happen; at this rate the above-mentioned will just have too many desperate enemies. :o

More predictions from DaBrain: the US Prez will live in a bunker from 2020 onward.

Speaking of, anyone saw Bilal's movie 'Bunker'?

Pround im talking about a nuke not a god damn atom bomb second holy crap thx for all the comments XD

Proud I know a helluva alot more about nukes than you do because my dad was born in 1942 and knowlage about milatary runs in my blood because atleast 1 male from each group of my family has been in the milatary like my father and grandfather and so on... And I know about emc electro magnetic pulse it shuts down all electircal devices, or aything that uses electric power and also fries the circuts of anything that uses a servo motor board including HE-T Rockets and HEAT rockets(High explosive anti tank) and guided weaponry such as a smart bomb, it also shuts down all dianostic of air craft in the area it also can cause all electric items and devices in an area the size of North America to shut down asap

Last edited: Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 2:01:19 AM

Just stop while you have some shred of dignity remaining:

If we follow that order, first you nuke everything. Then you drop a smart bomb (extra credit: how do they work?). Wait... What do we drop a smart bomb on? There is nothing left after your 50 mile radius nuke. And finally we have some "warhogs"... Wait, what the hell is a "warhog"? Maybe you mean an A-10 Warthog Thunderbolt (Tank buster) armed with depleted uranium 30 mm chain-gun. And tell me, even though we have now nuked (insert country of your choice) and smartbombed ash, why do we need to do a small scale cluster bombing run with a plane that can only hold a fraction of the capacity of a mid-range or even a a freaking helicopter. The A-10 is mainly used as an anti-armor ariel weapons platform. Thus the name "Tank Buster".

However, I must thank thee, as your post has just given my sister and me one of the best laughs we have had in days. Also, what does it matter that your dad was born in 1942? Oh boy, he was three when WWII ended. Hoo, you got me beat.

The best plan by far is to throw rocks out of a hot air balloon. Beat that.

I like how you find it proud to be a son of a military family. I myself am a son of a military father, uncle, and so on and so forth. I can understand with the whole "died for our country" bit, but how many times has he been deployed? My dead has only been around for an estimated 7-9 years of my whole life. Here's a hint: I'm 14 now. I can't find anyreason to be proud...

I'm not blowing this in your face. I know alot of people who are wanting to join the army...most are in JROTC (I like how the class says its not army related. But I guess they like discipline). I'm just sharing my side of the story. Maybe at the wrong time....Also, I don't know a damn thing about the military because I choose not to. And if you get the wrong idea, I'm not ashamed of my dad being in the military, just wish he hadn't joined.

Word to the wise, telling PGG that you're smarter than him, isn't a sure way to win.... I don't know him personally, but I'm sure if he finds something interesting, he looks it up, and he shows it by posting like he did in this thread.

And by the looks of things, your "war" has already killed the human race, from reading PGG's posts...And on a side note, I would like to add:

If you did "nuke" Iraq or any country, just because we're fighting them,you have to think what A. How other countries would act, B. How America would act because you just destroyed a whole country. Your means of "taking care of Iraq" are rediculous. You're just thinking it won't have any repercussion (spelling?) on any one else.

An while were at this why don't we just move to the moon where ther is no Bush? Huh?!