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Mon, Cant help with you it does not wor problem but I can tell you that Blender is hard to get the exporter working I could never do it but it obviously does because people are using it. Its over spec for TT anyway use this instead its free for 30 days and got the dts exporter built in so you can export the object in 2 secs. Milkshake
Daz
Blender is hard to use... It took me 3 weeks to figure out the exporter, now I have to figure out how to pit a skin on the object!
Its all working at least...
Sorry mon, I suggest re-installing
Monica, buy a mac.
^ No burrito on that one, if I get enough money I will buy a Dell PC. ;)
^, ^^ I finally made an object! Simple, but it's an accomplishment for me: :P
Nice one Mon, the first one is always the hardest. Oooo Dell love em I use a full (and I mean full) spec XPS Gen 4, lovely piece of kit B)
Have you noticed yet that when using 3D programms you have to think in a completely different way to usual 2D programms? It took me a little while to get used to it but once you do things become clearer.
I have been evaluating a few 3d programms over the last few weeks in order to choose one to fully learn, here are my thoughts:
1--- Maya --- The professional choice and very expensive. Is supported with a dts exporter (up to version 6) and lots of info on GG forums, but probably way over spec for making TT objects - but an un beleivable programme, friendly to use with endless options and tools. Seems to be more of a commercial product, used by Pixar amungst others. Not much free stuff avaliable on the net.
2--- 3d Studio Max --- Again a professional 3D programme and fairly expensive as well. Plenty of informmation on GG forums and has a dts expoorter up to version 8. Lots of free stuff avaliable including models, plugins and tutorials. This seems to be on a par with Maya and a very popular programme across many markets and user types.
3--- Blender --- The best thing about Blender is its free and is similar to the above 2 programms. But not for me, the user interface is to small and I found it complicated to use. The dts exporter seems to be a bit of a pig, however there are quite a lot of sites with tutorials and info on but not many with free models. Amazon also sells a series of Blender books which according to what I have read are a must own if you choose this programme
4--- Milkshake --- Probally the simpliest out of all to use and ideal for making TT objects. Comes with a built in dts exporter that is so easy to use without having to set up cameras and lighting etc, infact its a bit like saving a word document!!! Lots of really good easy to follow tutorials for modeling and skinning. Milkshake is free for 30 days and only $25.00 to own after that, absolute bargin if you ask me.
So having used and tested the above programms over the last few weeks I have decided to move forward and use 3D Studio Max and Milkshake. As Milk is the easiest and ideal for most TT objects this will be my primary use until I leard 3D Studio Max, Milk also has a 3ds importer so models can be shared between the two programms, how handy is that!!! 3D Studio Max looks good and there is a lot of info on the GG forums to help solve those little problems that are more than likely to occour, I'm really lookin forward to learning the programme. Although Maya is fantastic its a bit over the top for my use and as for Blender personally I will be leaving that well alone. There are a few other 3D tools that are very helpful and compliment the two programms I have chosen to use and I'm in the middle of assessing them at the moment.
Here is a link to the few objects I have made using Milkshake in the last couple of weeks, feel free to use em Objects
Just my thoughts hope it helps
Daz
@ Warfare if you got the dts exporter to work nice #1, please can I have your brain......................
Last edited: Sunday, February 19, 2006 at 5:21:00 PM
Hmm, made a "barbell" but can't seem to get the textures to work...
What programme are you using?
^ MilkShape , lol. :P
Great at least thats the easiest.........
Check out this tutorial, its short and to the point and should help you out with the textures. There are more onthe milkshake site. I guess they are all over the place at the moment eh?
Daz
Sry out of the quistion but how do u get the modding to work??
my blaster will destroy u!
Look in the MODDING RESOURCE , there are many tutorials in there.
It just goes to the place that I always get to but thx for trying to help
my blaster will destroy u!
Hi again can somebody make team battlemode or team scrum for demos pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I will be truly gratefuul thx... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
my blaster will destroy u!
No. If you want that, there's a brain-dead easy way to get it:
BUY THE FULL VERSION.
Got that?
I was only askng dj nobrain
my blaster will destroy u!
... Arg
Pardon my rudeness, I cannot abide useless people.
Ok, now I know I am a perfectionist...
I'm wondering whether you are angry or joking...
I'm probably going to go to great lengths to find out, lol...
Meanwhile, check your email please.
^ How you getting on with the 3D stuff?
Well...barbell, two rocks, a factory (in which I found out that png skins don't work), a log, and a tree. B)
Very nice you gonna post any screenies? I will be when I finish the stuff I have been working on, but its taking a while and detracting from my play time XD or :[ or :'( I dint know which I should be.....................
*** Rememmber when you export from milk, in the collision mesh settings set a bounding box or cylinder other wise you will be able to drive through the object****
Last edited: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 3:51:03 AM
Screenies:
Barbell:
Factory:
Log:
Rock1 (with light added for visibility):
Rock2 (with light added for visibility):
Spike (with light added because I forgot to turn it off):
And finally, the "drive-thru" tree, on which I forgot to put a collision mesh:
Oh, and one more thing: Whenever I enter my own mods, whether with the same copy of TT I am hosting or not, I always get an invalid packet error. Even when I delete the terrain file in the other copy, it just downloads, then gives me an invalid packet.
Do you know what's wrong here?
Thanks.
Hmmm not sure but whenever I have had that message its usually, but not always, the sky.
Really like the rocks, log and spike
Daz
Yo Whoever rubbing Sf I just got my a** kicked by some DG's where were yall matter of fact yall are never there I dont know why im still with yall I dont see why why Ozzy and god left yall in charge. SF is now a JOKE
What has Happen to this once great Army
whats the point of an army that doesnt look
Out for there own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XO
^
We all needed that in an innocent modding thread...
Why is Ti whining in every thread he finds? He can just live with it!
Kewl shapes Mon
OK...here is my entire Mon23.mis file...
There is something wrong with it, but what that something is I can't find...I have looked through the entire sky and terrain datablocks and compared them with Medulla Mesa, and still have found nothing.
Could any battle-hardened scriptor help me, please?
//--- OBJECT WRITE BEGIN ---
new SimGroup(MissionGroup) {
New ScriptObject(MissionInfo) {
name = "Mon23-Blockade Blizzard";
author = "Monica";
};
new MissionArea(MissionArea) {
area = "-328 -312 800 736";
flightCeiling = "300";
flightCeilingRange = "20";
floor = "118";
locked = "false";
};
new Sky(Sky) {
position = "0 0 0";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
materialList = "~/data/skies/falconsky_c.dml";
cloudHeightPer0 = "0";
cloudHeightPer1 = "0";
cloudHeightPer2 = "0";
cloudSpeed1 = "0.002";
cloudSpeed2 = "0.001";
cloudSpeed3 = "0.003";
visibleDistance = "1600";
fogDistance = "1000";
fogColor = "0.984314 0.992157 0.976471 0";
fogStorm1 = "0";
fogStorm2 = "1";
fogStorm3 = "0";
fogVolume1 = "1 1 1";
fogVolume2 = "1 1 1";
fogVolume3 = "1 -100 118";
fogVolumeColor1 = "1 1 1 1";
fogVolumeColor2 = "1 1 1 1";
fogVolumeColor3 = "1 1 1 1";
windVelocity = "1 1 0";
windEffectPrecipitation = "1";
SkySolidColor = "0.64 0.148 0.215 0";
useSkyTextures = "1";
renderBottomTexture = "0";
noRenderBans = "0";
locked = "true";
};
new Sun() {
elevation = "35";
color = "1 1 0.7 1";
ambient = "0.6 0.6 0.6 1";
locked = "true";
direction = "0.635001 0.635001 -0.439941";
position = "0 0 0";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
};
new TerrainBlock(terrain) {
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
detailTexture = "~/data/terrains/details/detail1";
terrainFile = "./Mon23.ter";
squareSize = "8";
tile = "0";
locked = "true";
position = "-1024 -1024 0";
};
new SimGroup(PlayerDropPoints) {
New SimGroup(GreenPlayerDropPoints) {
};
new SimGroup(BluePlayerDropPoints) {
};
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "37.0565 21.0695 150.148";
rotation = "1 0 0 89.3814";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/cross.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-38.0607 99.1686 136.761";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-42.9793 109.582 133.819";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-30.7336 113.312 132.531";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-29.0343 -16.7464 147.448";
rotation = "0 -1 0 5.15661";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-121.005 -54.7435 132.746";
rotation = "0 1 0 10.3132";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-130.267 -50.2249 132.463";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-113.693 -56.1206 133.624";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-128.105 -59.0979 131.104";
rotation = "-1 0 0 58.4417";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-108.737 -57.7168 133.014";
rotation = "0.0449221 0.0527953 0.997594 80.9233";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-36.2685 -23.2513 148.109";
rotation = "0 0 -1 108.289";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-34.6208 -20.2898 146.228";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "208.257 271.383 138.144";
rotation = "0 0 1 172.07";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "213.383 272.973 139.806";
rotation = "0.477603 -0.303304 0.824562 235.277";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "203.205 273.672 138.597";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "194.11 275.147 136.681";
rotation = "-1 0 0 60.1606";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "205.85 280.85 138.664";
rotation = "0 -1 0 51.5662";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "177.798 162.331 131.976";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "194.958 162.143 132.859";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "129.646 132.607 134.879";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "121.323 89.5445 134.492";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "150.427 3.04016 128.875";
rotation = "-0.561102 -0.555076 -0.614048 116.343";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "14.404 259.565 125.896";
rotation = "0.326871 0.740298 0.587464 209.083";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-6.89674 252.026 126.169";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "27.4308 257.681 124.738";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-19.6658 229.482 136.974";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "20.5602 230.604 138.563";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "19.9426 229.358 138.299";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock2.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "22.1308 261.476 123.865";
rotation = "0 1 0 20.6265";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "18.3211 256.912 126.001";
rotation = "0 1 0 108.289";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/rock1.dts";
};
new TSStatic() {
position = "-172.485 75.2108 156.335";
rotation = "1 0 0 0";
scale = "1 1 1";
shapeName = "~/data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
};
};
//--- OBJECT WRITE END ---
Last edited: Monday, February 27, 2006 at 4:41:08 PM
The only suggestion I have is that in the terrain block you have tile = "0"; I have looked throuigh a load of mission files and they all seem to be set to tile = "1";
Thay may help but, not 100% sure but worth a try.
Daz
Tile does need to be set to one, I agree wit tat, but that isnt the reason for the invalid packet error, I havnt scripted in a while, but from the looks of this:
You always have
ShapeName = "~ /data/shapes/Monica/log.dts";
And this is what I have
ShapeName = "game /data/shapes/Blue/rockblue03.dts";
Basically the same thing excpet for the wierd dash, only thing that is different from your mod's to mine, are those the exact case sensative capitals and crap with the names of your.dts's?
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Sorry PGG, I couldn't resist the title.
Problems:
1. About a minute after I open the terrain editor in TGE, it just...freezes up. The cursor won't move, nothing. I have to just "end task" to close it.
2. I installed Python DTS exporter in just about every directory and subdirectory in the Blender folder. It still doesn't work.
3. When I download XPack or Mod_Pack, I always end up getting this little bugger:
4. I can't get into any mods with new shapes. After "loading objects", TT just closes with no warning or error message. It just dies. Plus my server gives people a "ThinkTanks has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." when they try to join.
Does anyone have a solution to any of these problems?