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KC

Hi to you all,

I first want to extend my appreciation for your hard work! You are major contributors to TT Land.

You have made TT more exciting and safe for kids and big kids alike.

That being said, I want to now address an issue that I find dissapointing.
Just recently, a very successful scriptor got mad at someone(s) and decided to pull out of PTT. By his own admission, he was over reacting and recanted. Good. However he still pulled his scripts out of circulation. My question is why?

Also, a time ago, a very successful modder did the same thing. He was also miffed at someone(s) too. Fortunately, he restocked the shelf for us.

I just can't understand why, if you are contributing to us and then get mad w/someone, why that's our fault? I will guarentee, if I ever pull out, I will never pull what ever I've contributed. It just wouldn't be reasonable/fair.

Case in point: I decided to stop hosting a while ago for personal reasons, but did I just stop Mad Bots? No. I found a respectable host/admin who was interested in carrying the torch. I'm thankful too. I didn't want to dissapoint the kids after all. I was just tired of hosting period. So, not only was MB able to continue, but hopefully was also able to contribute to that new MB host as well.

It just keeps going see. I know we all get mad from time to time and it's hard not to act rashly. I know from my own experience. I've felt like pulling out a few times too.
Hey, if you want to leave, then that's your right, and I have np w/that, but I'm just saying that it will be nicer if you leave what you've created for us. Once we get a "gift", it just feels plain rotten to lose it.

In my own limited way, I'm trying to continue contributing to TT folks advancement/enjoyment. I hope to learn/share more as time goes on. That's what it's really all about for me. It's fun to share what I know and watch that someone grow too. Ok, I'm starting to get mushy, so I'll just stop here.

Hope I didn't ruffle anyone's feathers. That was never the intention. As I've stated before, I really appreciate your hard work(all of you!) and consider you a top notch crew of experts. TT just wouldn't be the same w/out ya's.

Thanks much,

KC

Monday, April 17, 2006 at 10:28:11 PM

You read my mind

Cloud

Monday, April 17, 2006 at 10:36:58 PM

KC, I think what some people might do is this. Many of know that this is an addicting game, and to get things just right there's a lot of tweaking. Lets say your going to try and quit playing this forbidden game. How would one best accomplish that? Typically it's by deleting all of your stuff. I'ts a weak minded solution but for most people (myself included) that's really all we have. It's much more difficult for me to be part of the community if I delete all the TT instances, TGE instances and client instance. If I were to toss all of my mods then I would (theoretically) be more inclined to stay away. As a matter of fact, I tried this about a year and a half a go and it didn't work. But I tried non-the-less.

So I don't know if this is more out of selfishness or if it's a persons way of trying to lean themselves off of the game playing habit. I't seems childish from one perspective but may be seen as a small tool in another.

 

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 4:17:50 AM

 

 

I't seems childish from one perspective but may be seen as a small tool in another.

 

I call him dashy.......

XD

Come on, I am being generouse with that statement.

 

 

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 5:02:16 AM
LGM

I can totally understand what Napalm is saying. Removing the temptation to get hooked again may be helpful, but...

These works people have done for TT are a real legacy. I'd hate to see them lost. Some of you may remember I got into TT because I missed an old mac tank game, Bolo. Even today you can still download the game and hundreds of maps. You can also download AIs that you can install to run your tank.

TT has many talented people who have scripted and modded. Maybe there should be an archive for all of it.

If you want to see what I mean about Bolo, check out The Bolo Page

A similar thing would be good for TT. (Some of you have sites that do this, like ReagentX's)

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 12:35:37 PM

@ KC, Napalm & others:
For me, if I would leave, I think I d take everything with me into my virtual grave. It wouldn't only make me feel less responsable for a script I made which might cause troubles. But it would also, at least for a while, make others remember my absence and what I ve tried to do for the community. Which might not have been noticed all the time, which maybe many have seen as normal. But for us, those who make scripts (yea I can script a little, and I m learning it ,altho I ve never released one), I can imagine that releasing scripts and noticing people are downloading that thing you programmed with your brains and hands. But not often there is enough respons from downloaders who do like the damn thing, and those who don't like it don't do the little effort (compared with the programming) to post what they don't like about it and how it could be better.
As a modder no one will notice that my mods are gone, and yes I will take them with me. I don't have any intention to spread out the.mis. I know napalm that you have some of the.mis, but from my best mods "Mountain Frontier" and the IRONIZE series you don't have the.mis. Do I have to give you the.mis, it is my choise and it is a no.
It is my work, and I d be happy if some do like them and maybe played on them. But together with me, I will take my works away. Maybe not all of them, but definitively most!

Scythe

Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 4:53:17 AM

That's true but the most imposrtant part of a mod it the terrian files whiach everyonr has. Yours, mine or anyone elses missions can easily be recreated. I had to do this one when I tossed all of my TT data in the past.

Nobody has created anything that is so great it shouldn't be shared freely with others while your here, or after your gone. (I'm speaking in the 3rd person here.

 

Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 6:08:03 AM

That is true, and if you can create such a GREAT thing, you will probably be such a nice person to give it away for free.
And I would share everything I create and is based either client or server side. But the thing is, the downloads will be gone together with me, that is what I am trying to say. So if others think it is so important, to reproduce or host a download themselves then that is good for the community. It might be also a test, to see if someone would miss you and/or your works.
About the.ter you r right, but I can tell you. Hardly anyone has my.ter's of the IRONIZE serie and the Mountain Frontier. So you d have to ask a lot of people before you might have one yourself. I never included them in the Mod_Pack for some odd reason I never found out.
Anyway im not planning to leave very soon.

YEAH YOU WILL BE STUCK WITH ME FOR A HECK OF A LONG TIME!!!!!!

Scythe

Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 9:24:58 AM

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