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W00t!
Pardon my rudeness, I cannot abide useless people.
^ woot? Apparently the irony is lost on some.
I'm not going to comment on the boycott, but I must have 44 mislabeled in my head. I thought he was more liberal than this... Or is that the irony? Woot certainly ain't gonna cut it...
*brought to you by a confused TTer who says "God is not a republican- or a democrat"
Last edited: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 8:14:51 PM
Holdens rule (.....any aussies out there??)
FORD = Found On Rubbish Dump or Failed On Race Day
^Didn't MadMax drive a Holden?
No BC it was a Ford - and it is still a crappy movie.
Good grief. Looks like I'll have to go buy a moped now. Nothing with four tires left for me to drive. Ahh, forget it. I'll buy an 18 wheeler. My guys at MAC won't let me down. Plus, it will make grocery shopping easier.
Don't you hate when your sarcastic or humerous thread needs to be explained? Kinda kills it aye?
Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to be on my toes.
Invite a retard to a picnic and you'd better expect to get drool in the potato salad.
Holy phallic symbol 44!
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Looks like I'll have to get a 4-bi-4.
Last edited: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 6:45:05 AM
ROFL, memphis...
I wonder if 44 knows about the mayor of Spokane, WA and his recent problems...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/01/spokane.mayor.ap/
Does the mayor drive a Ford?
Where's TankGirl when you need her?
Interesting how the "culture of life" can't see themselves as hate mongers. Must be gods will :)
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Funny how people use belief systems to justify their own point of view. Ticks me off...
It's OK with me to use one's belief system to justify a point of view. We all do it. Having it crammed down one's throat and passing legation that dictates another's belief in the supernatural ticks me off. And take it from me, ticks are icky.
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You said more what I meant to say. I meant to say use belief systems to justify the point of view and force their point of view on others. Thanks for helping me clear that up.
Last edited: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 10:48:39 AM
And you don't think the gay movement is cramming thier veiws down
our throats? (no pun indended)
What happened to the Libs anti-big corporation
views.... Greedy bstards
slave drivers
bad for America
polluters
but a religious organization has a beef with one
of them and the libs are ready to jump in bed
with them.Do you think they really care or are
they trying to sell cars to gay poeple?
T raider
There's lots of reasons to hate another person, corporation, or government. It's the easy way out, and who's next on the list? Making accommodation for others shows respect and takes guts. If a religious organization starts pushing hate they shouldn't feel confused when pushed back.
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Ford knows who there customers are:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Gay-Lesbian/gay-chick1.html
Who's pushing hate? This is about me choosing simply not to buy from a company that is actively supporting an inappropriate behavior. I don't hate homosexuals. My cousin is a homosexual. I just don't approve of their behavior and I disagree with campaigns to try to normalize it and lessen the sanctity of marriage. If God had wanted homosexual marriage, He would have put Adam and Evan in the Garden. This whole thing boils down to the absence of God in our schools and that's why, in addition to boycotting Ford, I'm also supporting the AFA's initiative to get a poster of our nation's motto placed in every classroom, in every school. You can see a copy of the poster and help support this important initiative here:
http://www.afa.net/igwt/oneperson.asp
Drop your kids off for school in anything other than a Ford and make sure they're staring at that poster all day...it's what Jesus wants.
For sale
1980 Chevy 4x4
or will trade for a Ford
@44
That motto was written at a time when poeole had
to trust in something other than a king. It had nothing
to do with any one God but just god in general. Don't
go switching it around that they ment your Jesus god.
The Pilgrims wern't the only ones to settle the good old
USA.
T raider
Well they sure the hell weren't talking about Allah, that much I'm sure.
SO according to the Adam & Eve line of thinking, we should sleep with our sisters?
Last edited: Friday, June 03, 2005 at 12:30:53 PM
Wow I have 3
OK, OK, fo fo. I'm sorry I said you were acting like your mother the other night. Now get back in bed you big hunka...
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@ 4
There is only one god just that different people call him
by a different name.
Now go brush your tooth before you go to the race track tonight.
T raider
Flea, sounds like you reserve your "hate" for people who you say, "hate" homosexulas. Hypocrisy anyone?
I really don't know what the heck you're talking about there norky. Perhaps you could clarify. Have to go to work now but tonight I really would like to find out why there is so much venomous speech toward gays. Indians, blacks, asians were easy targets. Just look at their skin and dress. Our god didn't make them like us.
But what exactly is it about a gay? They often look just like us. Is it because they "love" anther person? Is it because we imagine they touch things god said don't touch? What are those specific things? Do non gay people touch those things but that is OK? Hmm... Makes me wonder. Perhaps it's because they want to be treated with the same dignity we afford everyone else we don't suspect as being gay but don't really know. That may be it. Our god surely would want us to be better because we worship the supernatural HIM.
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I am really glad that hot dog and hamburger buns will soon be sold in equal number to what you get in a packet of hot dogs...although actually you don't buy hamburger patties in packets with set numbers like hot dogs...and what's up with that?
At this point I think I will expose what I understand to be more "44 sarcasm" of the ironic situation for the more obtuse members of the audience.
The very same folks who are convinced that "owning an American car makes them more American", are now faced with the fact that to be an American is actually about being open minded and accepting of other peoples differences.
It is my understanding that this country was founded on the very notion that humans are equal in their differences and should therefore have the freedom to do what they want in the confines of the law. (Though those law are theologically influenced)
Also...
@ t raider - If that were true then "In God We Trust" would have been "In Gods We Trust". At that time in American History there was only one God according to the Anglo-American Protestants who were the dominant political entity.
I this day and age it should be something more like "In The Good of The Human Spirit We Trust".
I have no God, so keep all your damn Gods away from me and my children. My opinion of "Life, the Universe and Everything" (DNA) should not matter to you as long as I am a good person.
MAX
Last edited: Thursday, June 02, 2005 at 8:32:40 AM
Do you really think that mo's drive Fords? I dont get it?
They let gay people drive cars? The cat is out of the bag now. Next they'll be wanting to vote, own property, assemble peacefully. We've gotta stop them!
I'm afraid Max that it is just a standoff.
First though, the part you want is from the Declaration of Indie:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends , it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
The anti's on any topic have just as much right to holler as the pro's. The Ford protestors have a right to holler as loud as they want.
Who's better? Those who protest? Those who protest a protest?
Last edited: Thursday, June 02, 2005 at 10:50:32 AM
*Sigh...*
OK, for starters, do you hate anti-black racism?
Yes? Now, do you hate anti-gay racism?
No? You say you are an anti-gay racist?
Yes?
They let gay people drive cars? The cat is out of the bag now. Next they'll be wanting to vote, own property, assemble peacefully. We've gotta stop them!
I guess so...
Now, let Yahoo speak:
You've got issues! XD
An inbox full of 'em...
^"anti-gay racism". I don't think they qualify as a race and If people are going to start drawing parallels between gays and ethnic minorities,
please don't. I'm an ethnic minority and I'd rather you drew your pathetic invalid parallels between gays and white people. There are plenty
of historical instances in which white people opressed other white people, so use one of those please.
Oh... Sorry, I thought otherwise. I'm altering my view:
Ford, IMNO, shouldn't be cramming this crap down our throats. Like Rabban? (not sure) once said, "It's like those Jehovah's witness people trying to cram their religion down my throat."
@Rabban? If you approve of Ford, I know you weren't talking about this when you said that...
EDIT WITH STILL MORE IRONY: I know this is a right-wing movement. I'm not signing that petiton, but I will swear off Ford products for life. The irony is that the righties, who STARTED THE PATRIOT ACT, are starting a petition because of the very first amendment that they're corrupting.
Last edited: Thursday, June 02, 2005 at 3:40:17 PM
Boycott ford!
Who's better? Those who protest? Those who protest a protest?
Might depend on the protest.
For example, my neighbor is protesting my protest of school integration. He ain't no better than those coloreds, IMHO.
Last edited: Thursday, June 02, 2005 at 4:59:43 PM
@JJ.1
The "Declaration Of Independence" is an important document to understand the beginning of the US but it is not the law of the land. The "THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION" is. An interesting read in itself but it was based on only 6 tenants:
1. To form a more perfect Union
2. Establish Justice
3. Insure domestic Tranquility
4. Provide for the common defence
5. Promote the general Welfare
6. Secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity
If you find offense with anyone calling out that petition drive against Ford as hate inspired then I say good.
"A jury in Tucson, Arizona, has reached a guilty verdict in the trial of an avowed neo-Nazi accused of the brutal murder of a gay man, an incident police classified as a hate crime.
On January 27, 2005, the Pima County Superior Court jury found David Augustine Higdon, 22, guilty of first-degree murder and armed robbery in the assault of Phillip A. Walsted, a 24-year-old gay man. Walsted died at a hospital after he was brutally beaten with a baseball bat near his home in June 2002.
Police found Walsted's eyeglasses and driver's license at Higdon's home, as well as a bloodied baseball bat. The blood was later identified as Walsted's.
In a letter written after the murder, Higdon stated that "I am a warm-blooded killer, no remorse, no regrets. I will kill for my beliefs."
If what we say on this forum makes you re-examine your beliefs that is not a bad thing. Perhaps it is free speech issue with you? OK. But remember the Supreme Court has determined that even speech has limits if it puts others in danger. And why would anyone want to do that?
BTW @ 44, stop that, you're starting to make me feel itchy.
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Last edited: Thursday, June 02, 2005 at 5:11:12 PM
I agree with Flea. Your point was made with the thread itself 44. A good comedian knows when his joke is over. You can only ask your wife to pull your finger so many times before she leaves you.
Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to be on my toes.
Invite a retard to a picnic and you'd better expect to get drool in the potato salad.
Last edited: Thursday, June 02, 2005 at 6:52:49 PM
Whaaa? I'd buy a car from a lesbian. She'd have to prove it first, of course.......
In America there are still two groups of poeple
who can justifiably be hated, fat people and christians.
I think Jesus would actually rather walk. Please refrain from ignorant comments like that raider.
-dd
@Rogue
Ain't going for laughs or annoying the one I love.
Last edited: Friday, June 03, 2005 at 3:45:19 AM
Now I know why my poodle prefers the land rover over the subaru.
@ Canine-loving insect
Someday, maybe the constitution, but Max brought the declaration up.
Re-examine beliefs? Grow, brother?
@ 4x4
Oh, some sunshine! I get it.
Does it boil down to the validity of the cause?
Or more a matter of which words mean what? Like protest is "hate crime"? Or "hate crime" is protest? Gets kinda confusing, doesn't it...
@ t raider
Actually, nice touch of irony. Like Israelis causing the tsunami. Christians deserve a good whopping here. Stink would say whining majority!
Of course, the next hot topic is caffeine. Oregon leads in Starbucks, etc: Therefore it shalt be politically correct. New stone tablets, Gabe. He's out for a latte...
Last edited: Friday, June 03, 2005 at 6:40:51 PM
I prefer the Ron White approach to finding out whether homosexuality should be feared or not.
...okay it isn't an approach so much as a 'joke' but hey, I don't care. I got nothin against homosexuals. B)
I don't give one half of a rat's ass about homosexual people's preference to people of the same sex, and because of that, the kids at my school think I'm gay.
@ Spunky
Those kids are making a logical fallacy called non sequitur. In a non sequitur argument the conclusion does not follow from the premises. DJ Wings(SA/D5)'s first post is a great example. Logical errors are around us all the time (especially in humor and politics) and we must be diligent to understand and spot them. The American Family Association, the group that has the petition up, is using an appeal to fear, a logical fallacy in which a person attempts to create support for their idea by playing on existing fears and prejudices. The real national crisis we have in this country is the lack of using the grey matter. Study.
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If one looks for the company which has done the most to affirm and promote the homosexual lifestyle, he would be hard-pressed to find a company which has done more than Ford Motor Company. From redefining family to include homosexual marriage, to giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to support homosexual groups and their agenda, to forcing managers to attend diversity training on how to promote the acceptance of homosexuality, to sponsoring a “commitment (marriage) ceremony”, to sponsoring Gay Pride Parades, Ford leads the way.
Support the boycott of Ford Motor Company automobiles until Ford stops supporting the homosexual political agenda, including homosexual marriage. Join with the other tens of thousands of individuals who have already shown their support! Call your local Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover, and/or Mazda dealer. Tell him you are joining the boycott. Tell him you will stop boycotting Ford products when Ford stops promoting the homosexual agenda and homosexual marriage.
Go sign the petition now at http://boycottford.com
Tolerance has it's limits.
*This boycott brought to you by the good christian activists of the American Family Association...doing what Jesus would do.