I spent a good chunk of last evening battling these two thru a few scrum games. I chose to just fight them and let the others play. By the time they left, they seemed quite annoyed. XD

My Observations:

1) As battlemoders, they are okay at best. Even with both of them coming at me at once I was able to kill at least one a good portion of the time. In even 1-on-1 matches, they almost always lost (unfortunately, I did lose a couple *shame*). This is, of course, why they choose to battlemode in Scrum games. In Battlemode, these two would be swallowed up into obscurity. Scrummers tend to be weaker at battlemode, AND are otherwise distracted trying to actually play the game.

2) They are still only Demo accounts. They have found the crack that allows them to play in Light tanks as demos. They kept timing out and rejoining.

3) I suspect they are young teenage boys: 12-14. They may be brothers, or friends. They show up at the same time and leave at the same time.

4) Demo (Attack) is the 'dominant' player of the two. When Attack timed out, Attack1 would not respawn until he rejoined. Also, when Attack left for the evening, Attack1 left too. Also supporting this, Attack1 is the more abusive talker of the two. Attack pretty much just HAHAHAHA when he killed someone. Attack1 got more into the taunting. I'm guessing he is actually 12, based on some of the talk between us last night.

5) I suspect that I won't be able to play Scrum anymore if either of these twits is in the game. They seemed quite upset with me, and I'm sure I will be one of their top targets from now on. ;) Attack1 even made some wishful threats about wanting to meet me in reallife to settle his score with me. LOL! Assuming my guesses above are correct, it would love to see the look on his face when he realizes that I am *not* 12, but 34, and 6'2. XD

LOL. I've been running across these 2 a lot lately. They certainly do enjoy chatting. Kinda reminds me of the seals. They get so wrapped up in chat and insults that it's almost a mistake when one of them actually stumbles into the goal. More annoying than anything else, but that's the beauty of the ignore script.

You haven't met SkrOtum and JesseJames yet.... Same guy by the way. They finished the night after you left. You beat them, they then spew all night and BM. Mongo had to log on and do basically what you described. Kick the H out of him, while the rest played. I am also looking forward to passworded league games again. Tally and I played the same crew the previous night in teams with Kid & Burnsie. Bolo and X played with the goof balls. I'm sure they were not thrilled. Wins but, not fun games. I will quit open games for a while.

Last edited: Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 2:33:14 PM

Attack1 seemed to *really* not like my "u lose" comment everytime I killed one of them. Told me to SHUT UP several times. XD Seems he's the only one allowed to abuse his opponents - no one is allowed to hand it back. These kids are just punks. :P And I there is no positive spin to that when I say it. 0 respect, 0 fear, 0 hate, 100% disdain.

I think I need to code a quickkey to post "u lose" in case I run into these kids again.

Here is how the games go. What ever name they use. You jump in a game with them. You win the game. Probably big. The next game you get BM'ed for the whole game with gun and mouth. They lose again. Third game. You return BM. They camp and win. The mouth continues. They win because they take you out of your game. I generally have warm up aliases till I see vets showing up. GingerBread Man and Dr Who. I've seen enough. I know exactly what your talking about TMO. I was playing with you. I'm done.

As far as I can see they are Bolo trained. In early Bolo except for the mouth. Same tactics. You win, get BM'ed till your out of your game and camping wins..

Scrotum was on last night as well while I was. I nearly went after him as well. I shall have to add him to my Watch List.

Ill add anyone to the watch list if I see em'.

Totally agree with you TMO. I've made very similar comments about these idiots in other threads:

http://supra.planetthinktanks2.com/archives/comm-thread.asp?thread=546&forum=4

And http://supra.planetthinktanks2.com/archives/comm-thread.asp?thread=1035&forum=4

It doesn't even seem to matter what name you use either. I've wound up in the same position with whatever alias I use!

I think you hit the nail on the head as to why it happens... When you beat them scorewise as well as BTM wise.

I've contacted people at GG and Bravetree about this and they have assured me that measures are being taken for fixing this problem in the future. Just as message boards need to be monitored, the same is true for online gaming sites. If not, then it becomes like the old west.

By the way, I think it would be a lot of fun if we all decided to stop scrumming the next time they appear and start attacking them relentlessly until they get tired of being obliterated!!! Wouldn't it be awesome? Instead of each one of us taking turns to BTM them, we should all have a secret agreement to stop the game and destroy these fools.

Last edited: Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 3:00:43 PM

Paisano... Your missing the point. They are taking you out of your game. You can no longer play, if you apply the same tactics. Skillz, fun everything goes. Too many of them now and they get to me too. I can't play that way. It spoils the game. They win by disruption.

Last edited: Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 3:14:48 PM

The problem with passworded games is that you lose all of the spontenteity of the open games. Only the invited people can play, unless your password is known to everybody, and then what's the point in having a password?

What would be nice is to see more leagues like HomeLAN sponsoring their own servers - I could see those having passwords known only to the members of that league. The leagues would each police it's own members as it saw fit. Those folks who don't join any leagues couldn't play in them at all.

Racer,

I don't know how effective that will be, given the fact that I could log in as Jeff any time I wanted.

These things need to be proactive, not reactive.

Last edited: Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 4:51:10 PM

The idea of everyone BMing these twits has been done - it does work but it took 2 full games before they left when me and others did it about a week ago. As was stated above they seem to be only marginal BMers so they have to come to scrum and shoot at people who are concentrating on the scrum to feel "fulfilled". They are about the only people I would like to have a kickvote for. Lets just hope they will grow up or get bored soon. Until then I will occasionally go after them with a heavy as an alias when not into the full scrum experience.

DanMac

Mental note: Abaddon==DanMac XD

Last edited: Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 5:27:39 PM

I find these guys pretty frustrating, especially the scrotum character, he is very abusive and he took me right out of my game. When is the internet going to get caller ID so we can stop this sort of anonymous abuse?

I usually just leave games when the attaks join. When I stay, I just stop and let them finish me off and then procede from the new spawn point. It's kind of like a wild card effect.

I have to tell you though, there are a few vets whose ability to score impressed me when I first started playing TT, that now cause me to leave. They BM lightly in scrum games when nobody else is, thereby gaining a significant edge in scoring. I now hold them in the same regard as the attaks. I simply don't enjoy games they are in.

As someone termed it recently "finese games are more fun". I could care less who wins anymore. I want to see cleverness, skill and wit.

Well, I never play scrum soo...

But I was playing in this game with three Attacks and two AMERICAs. They are freaking annoying and teamed up on me.

Basically, these characters are boring. The demos and the trolls.

There are only three provocational tactics:

1. Spam and taunt via the chat line. They score on occasion. The resident troll will say, "I schooled you on that one." That is old.

2. They shoot more than they drive.

3. They do the chat line trick, which I have attempted in retaliation but can't get the hang of -- and not sure I really want to learn.

This reminds me of my younger brother years ago. He would run onto the basketball court and steal the ball and then run off with it. One of us 10 or so older boys who were playing the game would catch him and rip the ball away from him. Then he'd go cry to Moma. Mom had no sympathy, of course. Hey, Mom, there's a troll in house...

Last edited: Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 11:25:04 PM

Beating them repeatedly makes them leave.

Yes it does!!!!!!!!!!

In that one game, they didnt know that I would be coming to kick their butts. When I did, they only teamed up on me. I mean, every single player (and every player was a demo) went for me. I still managed to keep it steady, being that they are only demos and I managed to kill one or two of 'em when they teamed up. But they are extremely irritating and did not leave.