Ok, about two weeks ago, pai suggested we make a new TT. I thought it might be fun, but then I had second thoughts. Copyright laws, and many other problems might ensue. Instead, we could make a whole new game. I was thinking an MMORPG. If I manage to get a job this summer, I will probably be able to buy TGE or some other game engine that we can easily use. Like Pai said, there are so many talents here that we should be able to do this. Here is my idea for the game:

Red Strike- A mars game. Classic humans vs aliens format. I think this will be decently easy to accomplish. Now, the server will be the complicated thing- A real time battle server. We can program bots, and have it so that there is a real front in the game. We can have a huge map, and lots "CTB" spawn points. I have started to mold out the alien and human players. I decided that the aliens should be in robot suits, as this will be easier to model than some deformed creature. If anybody wishes to change this, just tell me. I can do it :P

Here are some screenies of what the players might look like.

Alien:

Human(eyes were kinda difficult, so I put a mask on):

Tell me what you think. Hell, we may even be able to make some $$ off this!

Ok! Jobs spots are open. Right now, this is a soley volenteer job, so no one will be making money... Yet XD

Director: PGG

Model Makers:
Warfare
PGG
Monica

Scriptors (SPOTS OPEN!!!):
Warfare
CannedSplam
PGG (still learning...)
Monica?
PLAYER?

Artwork:
Racer445
PGG
Jacob

If you want ot be in or out of any of these, let me know!

Forums: http://s9.invisionfree.com/RedStrikeGame/index.php?

Last edited: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 2:47:33 PM

I am not really talking about the money so much as the system. My mom says that she gets at least one person a week that has an idea, but it normally blows over because he made the product, THEN made the finacial system. Keep in mind, the system can be modified, but the time has no redo button. We need to make an outline of some sorts, I guess. Can't right now, though. Class starts in 1 minute and I'm on the wrong floor... Wish me luck :P

EDIT: woot, made it to class alright.

Got home, and I finished my prototype of the troop carrier. Tell me what you think...

Last edited: Friday, March 17, 2006 at 3:38:24 PM

Noice. Veddy noice.

Well.... Ive had this idea that ive been thinking about for some time now, (ever since tt stuffed up on me to be exact) I dunno if anyone has or have heard of this game but I wouldnt mind the new tt to be based on World Of Worldcraft. Like for instance, instead of a lobby, theres just this world where tanks can roam freely and buy/upgrade their tanks so that they can customize the look of their tanks with various degrees of armour, weapons, paint jobs etc. After theyve "pimped" their tanks to perfection, they can go out into the wilderness or watever the environment may be to gain experience from killing various bot tanks or entering random areanas that are placed out anywhere.... But then again, I have a vivid imagination for a 15 year old and I dont expect any of that to really happen lol but I cant help but wonder.... Anyways MY POINT IS that I miss my old tt and I cant wait until a newer more compatible version comes out.

Peace out ppl
muddafugga
"If there was no such thing as pity, I'd feel nothing but contempt for you..." *DOUBLE THE FIST**

Btw, I can draw if ur stuck on any ideas lol...

Last edited: Friday, March 17, 2006 at 9:13:07 PM

That avtually sounds goods^ I like that idea.

@PGG,
Great idea! My portion will be donated to PTT.

@All,
If you have a model that you need artwork for, hook me up. Email is in profile.

I have made a model that will rival the ones of all but the worst modelers! XD

Stinks, doesn't it? I need some smoothing of edges and wheels.

@ All...me and my Friend made a Game before....the characters were like a mega suit kinda of armour...if you have seen that show gundam force or something its like what they look like...I can talk with my friend and see if I can get that stuff we used..

Æ

Do you guys need testers for WindowsXP --> Call me! (by e-mail...) :) [I guess it will take a lot of more time to create this but if its 'betaet' I would like to test! ;) :)

@ moinca: That is not bad, actually. Try finding a feature called "extrude" andf use that inbetween scaling to shape out you figure...

Also, check out this site:
http://www.migandi.org.uk/tutorials/tutorialspage3.htm
some good 3d tips there...

@PGG...Hey heres an idea of that stuff we had in are game..(it wasn't as good as some of this...but it was still really good.)

Oh and we didnt have a human head...it was a head sorta like you see on the game Halo.

Last edited: Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 11:37:37 AM

If you can find it, I may consider... :)

Ok...I froget if I mentioned this before, but I think it will be an important aspect in our game.
Can TGE let you switch weapons or weapon packs? There is probably a couple little tricks we can do, but how hard will it be. Man, I need to contact splam too. Between him and warfare, we can probably mold this out...

^^ I'd rather do soldiers to make this more realistic. Plus, just about every game uses futuristic armor and characters. It would probably be best if we stuck with soldiers.
^ Warfare can't check his email, so try to get to him through CS. I will try to learn to script a little more.

Ok, I have been thinking about some weapons, and here is what I have. Please keep in mind, and arteest, I am not (they also look a bit better on paper)

Pic 1- Pistol, Standard Assult Rifle
Pic 2- Heavy Assult Rifle, Rocket Launcher
Pic 3- Heavy Machine Gun (Stationary?)

Let me know what you think. I like the pistol, but everything else is subject to change.

Ok... Got the pistol done. Was pretty easy. Will look cooler once we add a texture to it.

Kinda looks a bit like the Halo pistole, but oh well...

Ummm are u still gonna stick to the tanks? Or is it gonna be just another fps game.... Cos I liked the original concept of cartoon-like tanks running around annihilating each other and the brains flying away (dad also loved the game and thats pretty rare considering he HATES COMPUTERS) just wonderin....

Muddafugga
*empty thought bubble....*
:o

Btw pgg, all I can see of the images are lil x's....

Last edited: Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 3:19:31 PM

All my images, or just a select few?

And "Our Company" may consider your idea in the future, but right now we are putting all our manpower to the development of Red Strike™©. Wow, I sound so official... Cool! MF, another thing you could do is go to bravetree and ask them about the game. I like it, actually!

EDIT: heh, right. Real reason I wanted to post here...
Monica, did you say humvee?

Tell me what you think. I tried to detail the machine gun turret thing a bit...

Last edited: Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 5:57:58 PM

In fact, yes, I did say Humvee, but I didn't tell you to destroy my opinion of myself as a 3D modeler...

Aite well heres my desgin of a weapons dispensing unit:

- the light and top part of its head always moves clockwise to let the players kno where the closest weapons are
- the legs are stationary, theyre just there to look cool :P
- the arms are there to hold the weapons so that u can just walk past it or press a button and u can collect ur weapon
- and the light (if u can see it) is a different colour depending on wat type of game play is involved ie. If its "team deathmatch" or "ctf", it would be blue or red colour (depending on wat team ur on) or if it was just a simple "free for all" or "deathmatch" they would all be white

Thats just one of the many ideas storming inside my head... Let us kno if u like it
peace out ppl
muddafugga
"would u like sand with ur mc crappy meal?"

Sorry to burst the name idea...

Command And Conquer Red Strike

Over the next few days I will draw up some concept stuff.

Daaaamn im on fire!! *touches arse making hissing noise* heres my version of a stationary gun turret:

- the shield would be made of a see through plasma force field-like substance or metal with a glass window where you will be able to take cover from or look thru to see wat and where u are shooting at
- the twin cannons shoot an eerie blue and black (resembling dark matter) swirling glob of DOOOOOM!! Lol and it should leave a reasonably big crater
- it should have limited ammo of around 100 shooting a twin blast every 10 secs or so and the ammo reset time would be about 5 mins

Plenty more ideas comin ur way - plz let me kno wen to stop because I might go a lil overboard.... :S
muddafugga
"they can take my pride, courage and my dignity, but they are getting knowhere near my ice cream sundae..."

The tank and the car is very cool
but if you could make it a tank on TT ;)
this will be cool

Sniper rifles, anyone?

Almost there, mon. And sorry about belittling your skills, too. Just keep in mind I have been doing this for about a year now, and that thing took me about 5 hours to get done...

@ Racer- Yeah, I kninda knew about C&C Red Strike, But I think we are OK. Maybe it could be like

Red Strike
^{Revolution on Mars}

Or something like that.

@Monica- Ok, I have improved on your design. This took me about two hours to make.

First, I added a little bit of body to your gun. You basically have the butt and the barrel. Keep in mind, This is all one polygone that started out as a cube. I am using the Extrude, Scale, and smooth functions, mostly.

Next, You needed a scope. I made this out of one cylinder using the strategy above.

Next, I added a little bit of intermediate detail (handle and clip). This is still working off of the main part of the gun.

Finally, we are adding the loading pin. I will go into detail on this. First, I made a cube and divided the one side into three seperated faces. Then, I moved one up into the corner and extruded to my desire. And thus, a crude pin is formed...

Next, I simply scaled the main of the cude to a thin rectangle, inset one side, and viola`, a pin with runner. Then, I moved it into the desired spot and the gun was done!!!

Like? Dislike? I was trying to follow mons basic barrel, and try to stray a little bit from the typical sniper rifle, too.

Last edited: Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 11:15:53 AM

Cats, that's amazing!
Could you email that to me in.3ds and.obj format so I can add it to a sniper loft I made?
Oh, and one more thing...Is Wings3D free?

Why, yes... Yes it is!

one o' de best free ones out there!

And I think it is time we made a forum on GG.com. Just to see people opinions. There are endless goldmines of help at that place, but we need to look profesional!

Last edited: Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 11:47:07 AM

Mon I would like to be more realistic and well if the butt of the gun is down then the gun would hit you

Ok, first of all, I have found a good site for inspiration. If you think I am good, check out some of these

http://hl2.gameparadise.cz/index.php?zd=a&

'Course, we are not trying to compete w/ halflife. We are going for more of a "I want a cheap but good online game" kinda people. AND it will be for mac, PC and linux, wich will be good as well.

Secondly, I have been working on some sort of specialty weapon. It will be useless for long range, but will ROCK on close quarters combat. Maybe this will be on the trooper you can unlock, or something.

Not that good, but It is not done quite yet...

For the Jet Pack Trooper. (Get ten kills and it unlocks it in game).

Oh yeah. I would like to help with map making.

Last edited: Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 3:32:26 PM

^ ok. You can probably make a map on a demo version and then send it to someone who has the full. This could maximize productivity at a lower cost.

This is sounding fun...i can help out with modeling. What kind of things are you thinking of making? So far I've only seen cars, weapons, and human models

I have been thinking on this topic, and actually, I am not sure. There is only so much we can do with our capatively limited knoweledge of TGE. I am not sure about multi person vehicles, and switching of weapon packs. Another reason why I want to make a thread on the GG forums...

@ monica- http://www.combat-bunny.com/tutorial.html <<< GOOD TUTORIAL for wings3d

Last edited: Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 4:44:27 PM

Well, if you are making this with TGE, than I am happy to say, that I have researched a lot about scripting and AIs for TGE. I've got 2 AIs already, I can program them to do just about anything too. I can have them guard, attack, follow a path, move to only certain perimeters, shoot when this happens, move when that happens, all that jazz. I would love to help script and make all AIs for this game, if you want me.

BTW, Are you all aware that if you do want to make this game, TGE is not the only neccessary thing. It would require a but load of Stuff, that would cost a fortune (I know because I've done some research on TGE, apparently you must have a few licenses to even make the game).

Last edited: Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 5:59:33 PM

Wow, Wings3D is cool!
^ Crap...
I think we should get a core team of, say, 5 people to do the actual game making/scripting.

PGG
Warfare
CS
me
Racer/aemorph/BigShow/Jacob/MF

@ Splam- We have done a bit of research, too, and we think that all we really need is the indo licence of TGE. If you wish to correct us, though, please point us in the right direction. Now, of course, we will probably need to buy at least the soldier pack, but that is only thirty dollars. We do not need the commercial licence unless, by some miricle, we start making 250,000 a year. I think that would be pretty frakin cool, personally!

And monica, please check out that tutorial I posted. It is all I needed to learn everything on wings. Aslo, that lloks like a good team. Not sure if aemorph or big show, but jacob, MF, and racer are definately good members. We also need a studio name. I was thinking

Wimpy Fist Production

I dunno, has somewhat of a ring to it :P

Canned is right, we also need the shader engine and possibly a content pack.
Also, ai scripting isnt tough, to prove it, check this out . There are other tutorials at the link and one of them is AI.

PGG, I have a domain I am currently not using at RadiatorGames.com
I wanted to put my TT stuff up there but I got lazy
RadiatorGames is not a used name for any game company out there so think about it :P

Good Luck!....Me and my friend found our old game files we made...but im still trying to convince him about all this... :o...Hes also found alot of wepon stuff he made awhile back that we can use.

Ummmmm is 3d wings for mac as well? Or if it isnt id like a different model application - NOT BLENDER becos its a load of shizen lol

Wings3D is for mac.
@War
I dunno, it really doesn't seem like we will be making more than one game, but the name does sound good.

@PGG
I did check out that tutorial. It taught me a lot of stuff I didn't know. (Imagine that! :P )
I'll do some research on the TSE to see if we can get by with just one copy for, say, Racer or someone else really good with artwork.

Yeah if we do make 250,000 give me some $$$

Nvm about joining, but I can be of help to pointing you to a helpful site link
download models, import 3ds, then export dts. You will have to add your own skins because only the model comes in the download.

Last edited: Monday, March 20, 2006 at 7:18:38 AM

Thanks big show.

Ok, so right now, here is our shopping list:

1/2 TGE indy: $100- 200
1 TSE indy: $150
soldier pack: $30

Total: $280- 380

Hmm... I think each person should try to get anough money to buy his/her TGE. We can give the shader engine to Racer, and that leaves the soldeir pack... I guess I can use my money for that as well...

No. I'll buy that. I really wanted to do some of the soldier stuff, and since you are having family troubles, it makes more financial sense for me to do it. :)

Oh nonononono mon. I am old enough to get a job, which means in the summer I will probably be getting $300 a month. Put $150 of that towards skating, and in two months I will be able to afford three of them. And I am not stoping you from buying, just let me buy my own.

Ok, you win. I'll buy another one.

Sniper loft:

I'm going to try to make a machine gun for the regular soldier (assuming we won't take the enormous trouble of pickup-switch-weapons).

OK...I made three variations of the machine gun barrel...note that there is no rotator, butt of the gun, trigger, etc yet...
Which one should I continue building on?

Enormous trouble???

Make it a power up.

War, you are right, I'm not saying its hard, just that I know a bit about it and I'd be happy to show you something in private that would probably blow you away. Proud, so am I on the team, or what? I would love to make the AIs and script. I hope you guys will let me in! Oh, and BTW...

Just to get an idea of how game making works, and to make a sort of, PREqual of this game, why not make a 2D version?
http://www.garagegames.com/products/torque/tgb/

^ As soon as you said "private," five other people wanted to see... ;)
Moving on to the more serious stuff...
I think the TGB would be a bit too costly, because after all, we want to make a 3D game and a 2D one probably would not merit our best efforts.

^^ Yeah, but we still have to make more weapons, more firing effects, etc...